No one ever declares war.

krigin

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Of all the games I've played, the AI has only declared war on me 1 time. I thought it might be because I played at prince level but I just played and beat my first diety today with a science victory. I was next door neighbors to Assyria and Greece and the Zulu and the Huns were on the other continent so I was sure I was going to be getting into some fights but nope. I don't build big armies unless I'm doing domination, usually just 6 or 7 high tech units.
 
Were your lands desirable? That is the question.... :)
 
I'm not sure what makes the land desirable. I didn't have a lot of luxuries, 3 silks and a marble all in my capital. But I had a crap load of strategic resources.
 
Some games go like this in BNW. It's annoying because everyone is so friendly you can't get into a war.
 
As soon as you take a city you will be labelled as a warmonger with diplo penalties. So uh, it doesn't really matter if an AI wants to DOW on you when all you care about is wanting to defend and then take their cities like in vanilla/G&K. It's a better change tbh.

You can also easily persuade military giants to take their weaker neighbours, still.

And as for the Zulu/Greece/Huns thing, they were all probably raising their military numbers to ridiculous heights before DOW. Yet again, this is probably a better change for them than the aggro-trigger of G&K AIs.

Never say ever though, lol.
 
One thing is for sure: don't trust your friends. Catherine's best hobby is to backstab me on every single game I have she as a neighbor... :cry:

I wonder if this is a personality thing or just that my CPU is trying to communicate with me... kkkk
 
After all the people whining about no war in BNW, I`m happy to say that I don`t see this. I play a very peaceful game (I almost never decalre war), yet in 3 games so far, i`ve had war declared on me by a greedy Civ that just wants to take my lands. Atilla did it and Bluetooth did and these Civs were on continents away from my own! I guess I leave myself looking militarily weak!

They also spend a while fighting each other too.

It`s a little too peaceful early on, but war is certainly there, especially later in the game.
 
Of all the games I've played, the AI has only declared war on me 1 time. I thought it might be because I played at prince level but I just played and beat my first diety today with a science victory. I was next door neighbors to Assyria and Greece and the Zulu and the Huns were on the other continent so I was sure I was going to be getting into some fights but nope. I don't build big armies unless I'm doing domination, usually just 6 or 7 high tech units.

I haven't experienced this at all.

Started an Immortal game as Poland. Had a vast stretch plains to myself. Expanded widely. Used oligarchy to keep cities garrisoned. Austria was a distant neighbor and in their usual fashion did not attempt to expand past a few cities. Without open borders I couldn't get past her to see what lay beyond, so it was quite a surprise to see her capital suddenly turn that unmistakable Zulu hue. Shaka didn't get the memo that there was no war in BNW.

He wiped her out utterly. I sat four musketmen, four xbows, and four winged hussars at the mountain passes that separated our lands. Figured that with all these folks on CFC going on about a shuffle dance, that he would be all bark and no bite when he saw I had a welcoming committee ready.

Not so. Beaucoup bite. Quite nonchallantly, he marched a horde of impi with cannons and bows at the rear right up and around my welcoming committee, enveloped them and promptly declared war. 16 strength impi do amazingly well against 24 strength musketment fortified in the hills and even 28 strength winged hussars. Of course, his ultimate advantage is sheer numbers and disposability. Killed several experienced units before I fully grasped the extent of this not-so-feeble threat amd pulled back closer to my cities, making them come through the mountain passes. Brought in all the garrisoned xbows.

His peace offer was generous. I only had to give up three cities. Nearly done researching rifling. I suspect after I finish upgrades there will be a fixing of little red wagons.

Most noteworthy part was that I had five caravans going into his cities, and that still didn't bribe him into docility.

No war in BNW? Well, maybe not in the first 30 turns.
 
Just wait until you spawn a start located close to Shaka and Monty. Guaranteed one or both of them will declare war on you very early. Happened to me, not too long ago... :eek:

It really depends on the map and the Civs to an extent. My last game, for some reason Ramsess was a warmonger throughout the game, never saw him warmonger like that before...

Since BNW, early era war is less common, and late era war is much more common.
 
Games in BNW do seem to lean towards one extreme or the other. I've just finished a game which had literally no wars at all, and it's not the first one I've had. Endless streams of spy messages that X is plotting against Y, but no actual war right up until declaring myself the winner at the UN. On the other hand a couple of games before that I had a game which was virtually one continuous war. Basically as soon as one civ was destroyed all the AIs would dogpile whoever was next weakest on the military power graph. Was down to 2 civs from 10 by the modern age.
 
I think just waiting until you spawn a start located close to Shaka and Monty will be a nice option to go with. Declaring war is not possible for everyone and no one like it.
 
I am constantly at War in my BNW games. If I'm not at war I am working the "X Declare war on Y" angle so that the world stays busy. I did have Attila do the unit shuffle outside one of my "outpost" cities last night I reinforced with some horsemen units and he decided to move on.

I also use Raging Barbarians option and it keeps everyone busy fighting also.
Prince Difficulty, Huge Map, 28 City States, 15 CIVs, Continents+ map, Legendary Start.

War... War never changes. But in CIV V, I see it a lot.
 
In my first few games of BNW I felt like this, but lately it's been down right impossible to keep the peace in my games.
 
I've played 6-7 games and have finally gotten one where Attila spawned close enough to me he declared war, lost units for 15 turns, settled for peace, rinse and repeat once the peace treaty expired. Having 2 mountains and an ally city-state blocking the direction he approached from prevented him from ever getting within 3 tiles of the city. Once I out teched him it was more of gift units to city-states to hold him off while I continue to grow like a weed.
 
So far only Bluetooth has declared war on me
 
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