Non-Informational: Gift England

[Immortal]

This poll is to see the popular opinion regarding Gifting England Saltpeter. This poll WILL be used in my trade instructions, and will end at the time which the TC begins.

 

[Fier Canadien]

I don't see why we should offer England our Saltpeter, they have two sources of it, one NE from London and one directly aside from Warwick.

 

[Chieftess]

Are you looking at the right save? There is no saltpeter NE of London. I bet they were trading it when one source ran out.


Time for my good old fashioned trade assessment.

England has more than 1 furs, and currently, only 1 saltpeter.

The have trade routes with the Iroquois and Babylon. Babylon's saltpeter is disconnected.

Babylon is trading with the Iroquois, Russia and England.

Russia has multiple silks, but no saltpeter.
The Iroquois do not have saltpeter.

So, this leads me to believe that the English were trading their 2nd saltpeter source to the Babylonians when their other source ran out.

That means, England is probably also trading furs to the Iroquois.

Final Assessment:

English Saltpeter --> Babylon
English Furs --> Iroquois

 

[Goonie]

I vote no.

 

[Immortal]

They do have 1 source east of warwick I think.

 

[Immortal]

Chieftess: that would explain hia not wanting to trade furs with us.

 

[Fier Canadien]

I was on my mac when I posted, so I had to look to the quite *outdated, obsolete* map. Excuse me for any false info.

 

[Feodor Ardent]

Definitely we have to give them saltpeter. They are the last buffer state remaining between us and the Persians. We need them alive and healthy for at least another 20 turns.

 

[Chieftess]

America does border them, but that buffer is only by 1 city - Baltimore. If that city goes, we have a whole horde down our throats. That's why the small expeditionary force is going down to scout things out, and to help out our allies if possible.

 

[Kennelly]

Yes,we need them and they're no threat.

 

[Octavian X]

I'd rather see the English defending themselves with cavalry against Persia....

 

[Chieftess]

Last night, I had this weird dream that the Persians conquered all of Greece, England, France, and America... But, Russia had all of Babylon.

 

[Feodor Ardent]

Last night, I had this weird dream that the Persians conquered all of Greece, England, France, and America... But, Russia had all of Babylon.

"When the Queen's sleep is troubled, all of the Court are as Dream-sayers reborn . . ."

Yet the color scheme is a bit off; the Iro have conquered the Russian cities we coveted. Nothing to do about that for the nonce save to apply cultural pressure.

 

[Feodor Ardent]

Your Highness, I beg to report that our Trade Representative may have been beguiled into this arrangement, as witness the exchange below recorded by one of our agents. Even worse, the document quoted was secured by the music hall gossips in Bavaria, where it has been recorded in an entertainment called 1776, the title, I believe, referring to the number of leagues of track Your Majesty's workers have laid to date.

Elizabeth:
I live like a nun in a cloister
Solitary, celibate, I hate it

Immortal:
I live like a monk in an abbey
Ditto, ditto, I hate it

Elizabeth:
Write to me with sentimental effusion
Let me revel in romantic illusion

Immortal:
Do you still smell of vanilla and spring air?
And is my favorite lover's pillar still firm and fair?

Elizabeth:
What was there, Sir, still is there, Sir
Come soon as you can to my cloister
I've forgotten the feel of your hand

Immortal:
Madam we shall walk in Cupid's Grove together

Both:
And we'll fondly survey
That promised land

Till then, till then
I am as I ever was and ever was
And ever shall be
Yours, yours, yours, yours, yours

Elizabeth:
Saltpeter, Sir

Fortunately, the idea for the trade is still a good one . . .

Feodor Ardent, DFAM
(Ever taking the common pulse, whilst testing with the Commoners the newest of wines and beers.)

 

[Zarn]

Originally posted by Chieftess
Last night, I had this weird dream that the Persians conquered all of Greece, England, France, and America... But, Russia had all of Babylon.

You are scaring me, Chieftess.

*Backs away*

Now back to my glorious Council.

 

[Immortal]

that was VERY well written, great!! And now I must go on a trade deliberation, and visit my swe....eer...friends in England.

I hath been discovered mine queen Elizabeth! Ho! Location be known, saveth me!

*jumps into ocean and starts swimming toward England*