nukes versus military units

[jkp1187]

Do you suffer a big hit in AI attitude if you use nukes against only military units, not a city? My home island is about to get invaded and I want to just wipe out the invasion fleet before it gets close instead of worrying about rush-building enough naval/air units to fight them off. On the other hand, I don't want to have to worry about getting add'l declarations of war from other AI players...

 

[warpstorm]

You would get a big hit even if you only attacked blank ground in your country, IIRC.

 

[jkp1187]

You would get a big hit even if you only attacked blank ground in your country, IIRC.

Pshaw. Darned liberals.

 

[jb1964]

Nuke 'em till they glow and shoot them in the dark.

What kind of victory are you trying to attain? If you're on an island by yourself at the stage of the game when nukes are in the picture I'm guessing Space or Diplomatic. Since you're at war and comtemplating launching a nuke I'm thiniking the diplomatic victory is remote.

You're probably dependant on luxury and resource trades so unless you're about to launch the ship I would keep your finger off the botton. Dropping a nuke, anywhere, will provoke a variety of very negative responses. None of the other Civs will look at this as a positive development.

Then again, if you have no hope of scoring a victory please refer to my opening statement.

 

[jkp1187]

JB--

Heh, although I started on a really small forrested island (barely enough for 6 cities,) I managed to settle on the nearby large continent, take out a small Chinese civilization, a medium-sized Babylonian one, and a terrifyingly large Sumerian one. So, really, I have a pretty big empire. The problem is that I don't have enough military forces to cover everything (the classic maritime empire problem,) and so had to get a "coalition of the willing" against the Sumerians (and that war HAD to be fought, b/c they were in danger of winning a cultural victory). Problem is, they're destroyed, the war's over, and I've taken a bit of a reputation hit because of all those Sumerian cities that I burned down.

(Hypocrites. They were doing likewise.)

I built the UN and held a vote, but it was inconclusive -- I got 4 votes, France got 5, and one abstention.

Anyway, as I was busy building spaceship parts and the Cure for Cancer (an absolute necessity -- despite building Universal Suffrage, the citizens of my Dutch Republic are unhappy due to war weariness and draft resistance,) the Ottomans and Americans (hitherto allies against Sumeria,) signed an alliance against me and declared war. In the meantime, my home island was denuded of troops (they were flown over to the continent) and there's an invasion fleet approaching. I could probably scrape up enough troops/airpower to wipe them out thanks to cash and more drafting, but I'd rather just wipe 'em out with that tactical nuke I have in store for just such an occasion.

Also: The Americans and Ottomans aren't real threats -- the Persians are the ones I'm racing to Alpha Centauri. So I don't even want to FIGHT them (except maybe to grab a luxury colony from America). I'd post a screenshot, but I'm at work now.

The upshot of it is: I don't want to get hit with a dogpile right now. While I probably could win, it would be highly distracting, and I just might really NEED to nuke Persia to stop them from launching in the near future. Plus, France would probably join in against me if push came to shove, and they have nukes too....

 

[jb1964]

Quite the dilemma. How about swallowing your pride and trying to make nice w/ the OttoAmericans for a price?

BTW, if you’re already experiencing war-weariness lobbing that nuke will go over very badly at home as well if you’re a democracy.

Ending a lopsided game once I started launching the stockpile for giggles only to have my population go nuts and quit working on my spaceship.

I’m at work as well and can’t wait to bail out of the cube farm. I’m going to head home, play a few turns of a C3C Succession Game and then go camping with about 4000 Boy Scouts.

Please post how things turn out. It sounds like a good one.

 

[jkp1187]

Not a democracy, just a republic. Didn't realize that throwing a nuke caused add'l WW, too....

 

[widdowmaker]

Solution is to rush build as ICBM's and Tav Nukes as possible, convert to commie, draft a unit from every town, then nuke the ones your at war with, if you get dog piled then shove one up the arse of every enemy capital and major city. Global warming? Foirget about it, your flying to Alpha Centari.

 

[Crimso]

Yes, nuking every civ is surely the best way to solve your problems.

 

[Despair888]

Yes, nuking every civ is surely the best way to solve your problems.

I agree. Nuke em all!

 

[widdowmaker]

I had one game with a similar situation, i simply blasted every city on the map of all my enemies, they were crippled far beyond repair and i won a space race.

 

[citizen001]

I mainly used nukes for IC warfare or on lower difficulty level when i'm killing my enemy on research.

 

[jb1964]

So, how did it go?

 

[crimson238]

I agree. Nuke em all!

Think of it as doing them a favour. As they can't go with you to Alpha, you can atleast gurentee them a nice, 24 hour lit, safe, world of radiation, death and cocroaches.