Nuking Nukes?

[FlakJacket]

Is there any way that you can turn off how nuclear weapons are never destroyed when the city they're in is nuked itself? I understand that it's mean to represent MAD so you've got to be careful - but I always liked how you could effectively take out an opponents arsenal in Civ2, forcing you to put them on subs or silos/airfield outside of the cities.

 

[mazzz]

no, there is no way.

But you could have trops like tanks a few sqaures away from the city then after all the units but nukes are destoyed attack and it will destory the nukes when you trake the city.

 

[Sarevok]

i use nukes to kill armies, i had a korean game where i had a 'colonial' city on greece, and rome sent armys and tons of MA's. the catch was that the furthest they could travel was to the square away from the city. so i just nuked their armies. they did this at least 20 times each time sending over 20 units. they never truly got the hint. thats 400 units, ouch!

 

[Chieftess]

It's just done so that the first person who uses it doesn't get a "free victory ticket". The AI will generally pound the same city over and over again (resource, then capital). It's a game, so there has to be a reason NOT to use them. Plus, it's also turn based, so the AI has to have a chance to counter attack.

 

[Sarevok]

in my korean game,i have a city of no strategic importance whatsoever, yet that city is the only city the AI nukes, every country. its funny and it must be a bug, cuz that city has been nuked at least 40 times

 

[HamaticBabylon]

Nuked 40 times, ouch my brother. Nuking is very dangerous because if more than one civ nukes you, there's a good chance the IA will join military alliance with all the other civs. Then you’re doomed.

 

[silver 2039]

Mabey you could change it in the editor somehow.

 

[Roundman]

Making the nukes survive, especially the ICBMs, is realistic. ICBM silos were designed to withstand nuclear blasts, so to ensure MAD. I could see tactical nukes being destroyed, but ICBMs should remain.

 

[Sarevok]

one time i nuked a nuke, then they shot it at me, then i shot 100 ICBM's back

 

[hbdragon88]

MAD? Mass attack destruction?

 

[warpstorm]

Mutually Assured Destruction

 

[CIVPhilzilla]

You can do one thing to destroy the AIs nuke stash caputure and raze the Mannhattan Project.

 

[DasScoot]

Does razing the Project eliminate nukes from the game? Never seen it happen but it doesn't seem likely...

 

[zurichuk]

no it doesn't iirc

 

[Sukenis]

First off, nuclear silos could not withstand a nuclear blast, nothing can. The were designed to withstand a near nuclear blast. The advent of true smart bomb weapon systems made the idea of making a blast proof bunker of any sort impossible. Silo's and bunkers only safety was to be kept a secret.

That being said, the Civ games do not allow for "secret" silos/bunkers. Thus the current system is used (speculation here, but it makes sense). I was let down a it because is SMAC, you could do a probe/spy mission to destroy a planet buster (SMAC version of a nuke). In civ, you have to attack the city with the nuke to destroy it. I wish that this was kept in some way in Civ 3, but what can you do...?

 

[The Last Conformist]

In reality, if someone fired a volley of ICBMs at the US (or other nuclear power), the incoming missiles would be seen by early-warning systems (satellites etc), and the retaliation strike would be launched before they hit their targets. This being tricky to represent in a turn-based game, I think the CivIII system is a good substitute.

 

[Excelsior-MU]

You could aim your ICBM at a City or a square. If that city got nuked, then that ICBM would automatically launch at the targeted City instantly (thus they would strike their target that same turn) or square thus simulating a retaliatory strike. If the ICBMs are not aimed, then they get destroyed. You could set up multiple targets too, one for each civ.

 

[The Last Conformist]

That would work, indeed. IIRC, CTP2 had something like it?

The prime benefit of it would be getting rid of the nuke'n'blitz strategy. But keeping the target lists up-to-date might be annoying, especially in a game with many civs in it.