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OFFICIAL DISCUSSION: Other Issues

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Demo Game V: Citizens' started by Chieftess, Jan 26, 2005.

  1. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    This is the discussion to determine any other issues in setting up the constitution.
     
  2. DaveShack

    DaveShack Inventor Retired Moderator

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    We absolutely need a freedom of information. The basic idea is that all citizens need to have enough information to play without having to open the save. This is a cornerstone of the plan to switch to C3C. The details can go in a lower form of law.
     
  3. mhcarver

    mhcarver Newspaper Mogul

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    I agree with you wholeheartedly DS we need act. Ok I need this act because my parents will be making me pay insurance on the car when I get my license soon so I don't have the 20-30$ to buy conquests. We also need to Codify at leat part of the Judicial procedures, primarily CC's to prevent the nasty arguments that occured during the first CC.
     
  4. ravensfire

    ravensfire Member of the Opposition

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    Agreed with the information stuff. DG5 was pathetic in the amount of information publically available in the forums. Pathetic.

    Strongly disagree about the procedures though. Chaos? Chaos? That was pretty darn calm compared to the past! Keep it as it is - let the CJ create the processes for that office. We demand from them fair hearings in a timely manner that answer the questions raised.

    We don't demand from any other leader step-by-step instructions, written in law, on how they do their job, do we? Why don't we require leaders to actively seek input from the citizen? Of all the offices out there, the Judiciary has caused me more stress and disgust with people. Evaluate the CJ during election time on both their performance in the office, and in organizing the office.

    -- Ravensfire
     
  5. truckingpete

    truckingpete On a Stark Trek

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    I agree :hammer: People w/o C3C could play....
     
  6. ravensfire

    ravensfire Member of the Opposition

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    Other items discussion summary:
    • Freedom of Information Act

    Discussion points:
    • FOI Act (Please, if someone would locate and post it, I'd be grateful.
    • Anything else?

    -- Ravensfire
     
  7. DaveShack

    DaveShack Inventor Retired Moderator

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    Not sure if we have one yet. Maybe luck will smile on me and I'll have time after The Apprentice.
     
  8. blackheart

    blackheart unenlightened

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    FoI is good. Saves me the trouble of opening up the save :)
     
  9. Cyc

    Cyc Looking for the door...

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    You're FIRED!!! :lol:
     
  10. Black_Hole

    Black_Hole Deity

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    now on the freedom of information act:
    Do we want to have a set procedure for someone posting a thread, and each official posting in it?
    Or do we want it just to be general and say that leaders must keep the citizens informed?
     
  11. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    Being that some might not have C3C, or even use the 1.22 patch (old ongoing PBEMs), I think there needs to be atleast some level of required information. Or, atleast information that can be requested.

    i.e., an official wants to be governor, but has a Machintosh (thus, no C3C 1.22). (Remember that Stuck? :)) They can request that someone with the save post pictures of the cities in their thread, or post some stats.
     
  12. blackheart

    blackheart unenlightened

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    As CT pointed out, some leaders won't be able to run the save, so how about creating an office to do this, or just have a group of dedicated citizens?
     
  13. YNCS

    YNCS Ex-bubblehead

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    I would think that the appropriate minister/consul/grand poohbah or a person appointed by him/her should give information for those who need it. Also, I don't see how someone who doesn't have C3C v1.22 could possibly be the DP.
     
  14. Black_Hole

    Black_Hole Deity

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    they couldnt...
     
  15. Ashburnham

    Ashburnham King

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    The president was always supposed to provide a clear summary of every Turnchat, so that should be his responsibility rather than the responsibility of a new office. I also like the idea of having the Ministers post information on their government threads, thereby easily allowing anyone interested in a certain office to go to the thread and get all the information they need.
     

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