OFFICIAL Doughnut Embassy

[fe3333au]

This is from KISS regarding ideas for a posssible 3-way

Hello MIA,

Here's some thoughts on how you may want to discuss things with Doughnuts.

SUMMARY
--Donuts are trying to extort 3 techs out of MIA for Writing.
--MIA doesn't need writing like Doughnut thinks you do. We are done in 8 or less.

Here's what we propose MIA propose to Donut.

1. Offer wheel for writing. Donut needs to start moving towards their UU at some point.
2. The offer can expand if Donut offers more information like they following.
3. If yes, then MIA can start with 3 questions.
A. What is Donut researching and MIA can reciprocate with masonry.
B. What government does Donut want to be in and MIA can reciprocate with Republic.
C. Who does each team know and what is the relationship. You can let them know you know us.

Then the conversation can spoke off from here.
If Donut is researching philo and wants to be a republic then there's the possibility the 3 of us can research together.
Donut gets WC, stops philo and gains cash till CoL can be coordinated and finished beforehand.
KISS starts CoL.
MIA fiinishes masonry and starts HBR for Donut and their UU and KISS.
Everyone gets republic, CoL, philo, HBR and masonry in the process.

If Donut wants to be a monarchy then we can all help each other get to our respective goals and work together to eliminate the scourge of the earth.

Thoughts?
Let us know how things go.
Chief Idiot Whomper

and then followed by a chat which i won't prinf as it is basically repetative on last one ...

Reading above ... we are agreed i think ...

Writing for 3 techs is outrageous ... they are still over estimating their worth to us

I think ... We should only offer Wheel take it or leave it ... and that so they can at least engage TNT with at least some odds of not being totally over run if war ensues ... and Emp is trying for a meeting on Saturday ... I am willing to PM them our decision however possibly less confusing if it comes from Emp.

I will await directions if you want me to PM them ...

 

[Chamnix]

We should only offer Wheel take it or leave it

I still don't see anything wrong with Wheel and Ceremonial Burial for Writing. We do want writing even though it isn't urgent since we will get it regardless, and CB is cheap and really pretty useless to them.

Think of the trade from their point of view - Writing is twice as expensive as the Wheel and is necessary to get the best government as well as very useful techs like Literature and Map Making. For all they know, we are lying about getting Writing soon.

Regardless, the more turns that are played before the meeting, the less Writing is worth to us...

 

[Chamnix]

Wasn't there supposed to be a meeting with Donuts today about this? Has it happened, or was it postponed, or am I just misremembering things? We need to decide what to research next before our next turn. As of now we will probably go for Masonry, but we may want to do something different if we get writing in a trade.

 

[fe3333au]

They are proving to be difficult to contact ... busy or obviously provocative ?

 

[fe3333au]

In consultion between Foreign Minister Emperor.Napoleon and ambassadors Kentharu and fe3333au ... we have drafted and sent this message to D-Nuts ...

PMed to DaveShack; magnusmarcus; killercane; zyxy

Dear Citizens of the great Doughnut Nation

We were wondering if there is a reason for your continued silence and lack of will to meet? ... We assumed a willingness on your part to open dialogue when we received your trade proposal.

Yet, we have repeatedly requested, through many avenues, to arrange a chat meeting with your representatives ... concerning of course the finer details of your knowledge swap proposal ... and receive only silence and then recently, a message indicating that no-one was available ...

As mentioned in our correspondences, MIA cannot agree to this document as it stands ...

We are well on the way to gaining the knowledge of Writing as it is ... and since we have noted your lack of certain 'choice' technologies and also sense aggressive vibes percolating from other sources on your continent ... We merely contact you in the perception of the possibility that you may be interested in a mutually beneficial exchange ...

We therefore logically assumed that you would be very eager to trade fairly with us ... if we are mistaken please correct us ... and we will not badger you ...

Therefore we again request audience with our respective diplomatic representatives ... in order to speedily discuss other options that we feel would be fairer to both parties ...

Heed this, the longer you delay discussion ... the less valuable Writing becomes ...

Awaiting your prompt reply ...


Yours sincerely

MIA Foreign Department

Emperor.Napolean - Foreign Minister
Kentharu - Doughnut Ambassador
fe3333au - Aide and Scribe to the Department

We feel that the tone of the message is justified ...

 

[fe3333au]

Sorry I posted this in the wrong thread ... I repost in the new thread http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130088