Old Ruins -> Imba?

[TheBlindLeader]

Hi,

I started a 12 civs game on a pangea map with prince difficulty on marathon 30 minutes ago and this is what happened:

1. I build a Scout
2. I send him scouting
3. After 4-6 rounds he finds an Old Ruin and develops to a Crossbowman or what ever that is called in the english version.
4. 5 rounds later he finds the 2nd old ruin and becomes a Rifleman (the guy after the Musketman) after approx. 12 rounds in the game...

After that I canceled the game because I would have won the game with this one unit in no time

Is there anybody else who encountered this sort of problem or was it sheer dumb "luck" for me?

Greetings,

TBL

 

[Windsor]

You'll need three ruins. First makes him an archer, second a crossbow, third a rifle. There have been a few people who have been "lucky" enough. And since the ignore terrain ability is kept just getting him to a crossbow is very powerful. If you play on an archipelago you can get knights into mech infantry by exploring small islands.

I have only gotten two upgrades from ruins myself and that was with a warrior(making him a pikeman). Hopefully this will be patched so that units can only get one weapons upgrade. Getting rifles 3000BC is just silly.

Personally I have turned off ruins now. They are exciting in the beginning, but the bonuses are either nearly worthless(maps, revealing barb encampments) or extremely powerful(techs, upgrade). I don't miss them.

 

[Mad Hab]

Yep, they need to balance the ruins. Maps are the worst - beyond useless, they even take out the fun of exploring the terrain...

Cheers,

Mad Hab

 

[TheBlindLeader]

Nope, he only found two ruins. I am 100% sure of that because I know how shocked I was when the scout evolved to a crossbow. If that is "not possible" as you say then I maybe ran in a bug...

Well doesn't matter, I turned the runis off too now... But still they need to be fixed.

 

[JoxerNL]

You know, if you go to the setup, you can just turn it off.

I know! le gasp and stuff.

For those who never been in the advanced setup screen...

Single Play-> Set Up Game-> Advanced Setup (located at bottom)

It can turn off ruins, turn off barbarians, choose widely diffrent map types the works.

 

[ChaplainDMK]

You'll need three ruins. First makes him an archer, second a crossbow, third a rifle. There have been a few people who have been "lucky" enough. And since the ignore terrain ability is kept just getting him to a crossbow is very powerful. If you play on an archipelago you can get knights into mech infantry by exploring small islands.

I have only gotten two upgrades from ruins myself and that was with a warrior(making him a pikeman). Hopefully this will be patched so that units can only get one weapons upgrade. Getting rifles 3000BC is just silly.

Personally I have turned off ruins now. They are exciting in the beginning, but the bonuses are either nearly worthless(maps, revealing barb encampments) or extremely powerful(techs, upgrade). I don't miss them.

Btw, since were on this topic. I noticed that Minuteman can't use roads (their special ability is that EVREY tile takes 1 move, they can't get bonuses from roads or rails), so now I have upgraded them up to mechenized infantry, it means that some of my (like 1/4 of my army) can't use roads! Real logistical nightmare =(
And i don't wanna replace them because most of them have +25% on rough and flat terrain + medic upgrade at the minimum.

 

[Godclone]

Disable ruins in advance settings is win , if you don't want to see AI with riflemen 30 turns in . (especially on marathon )

 

[Venger]

Btw, since were on this topic. I noticed that Minuteman can't use roads

Really? FAIL!

Civ - where you are the beta tester.

 

[DagHammarskjol]

never mind

 

[Charybdis]

How do you do that? It's not in an in-game menu is it?

I'd like to turn off (or down) barbarians. I hate barbarians.

Single game, setup game, then click advanced options down the bottom.

Can also turn off Barbarians.

 

[Malkaviel]

I don't like the word, "Imba".

 

[MisterBarca]

You'll need three ruins. First makes him an archer, second a crossbow, third a rifle. There have been a few people who have been "lucky" enough. And since the ignore terrain ability is kept just getting him to a crossbow is very powerful. If you play on an archipelago you can get knights into mech infantry by exploring small islands.

I have only gotten two upgrades from ruins myself and that was with a warrior(making him a pikeman). Hopefully this will be patched so that units can only get one weapons upgrade. Getting rifles 3000BC is just silly.

Personally I have turned off ruins now. They are exciting in the beginning, but the bonuses are either nearly worthless(maps, revealing barb encampments) or extremely powerful(techs, upgrade). I don't miss them.

Do you keep Promotions from a previous unit type that would otherwise be inaccessible to the new unit?

And so Scouts can upgrade then?