Order of Founding Fathers

[radmod]

I haven't been able to find this anywhere, but my question is what determines the order in which you can receive founding fathers. For example, in Vanilla/Conq both Minuit and las Casas(?) each need 286PPs. Usually I get a shot at Minuit first (even though I have enough trade and religion for either) but in a game I'm playing I seem to be stuck with las Casas first. I am always offered the Exploration guy first (who I reject) so I thought it might be based on whichever category has the highest points but I have more trade than religion in both games. I'm wondering if it is based on the level, e.g. maybe I have enough religion for the fourth guy (but not PPs) and only enough trade for the third guy.

Any help out there?

 

[fugazi]

Whenever you reach the amount of points needed for a guy, the game asks you if you want him. If you ain't getting Minuit, maybe one of the AI's already got him or you're not making enough whatever it is you're lacking!

 

[dalgo]

Once you have the necessary FF points in both categories you get offered Founding Fathers in the order of their specialty (Exp, Rel, Trade, Mil, and Politics last). In your case this is why La Casas was offered before Minuit.

By the way - I always grab 'that exploration guy' as soon as he appears. He is Pedro Cabral and he cuts the travel time to Europe in half.

 

[radmod]

Sorry, I meant the second exploration guy. Of course, I always take Cabral. And, no, no one else had taken Minuit. The only thing I can think of is that perhaps, just perhaps I was wrong about having enough Religion points. I was going to look at it again later.

 

[Wheldrake]

It's worth noting that the changes to founding fathers in the AoD2 mod are really significant. In vanilla, I would consider Minuit's bonus so overwhelmingly good as to border on "broken". I find the FF list in AoD2 to be far superior, more "balanced" in the sense that all choices are worth having, and you need to make more decisions on which to pick according to your strategy for the game, rather than taking the same ones every time.

Then again, if you hunt down the rival colonial powers and raze their cities, you should have plenty of time to hog all the FFs for yourself. <g>

Cheers, --- Wheldrake

 

[Esckey]

You can' seem to pick a higher FF and then get a lower one on the same tree.