Patch 109 breaks cheats?

warp_kez

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Decided to download the 109 patch to see the improvements.

The last vanilla version game I played I fooled with the "Player.SetGold 0,10000", but since updating to 109, the cheat no longer works.

Is this a feature, or a bug?
 
Why would you want to cheat in Civ?! Geez. Play on Settler if you find it too hard.

If you are "testing" the game (instead of the traditional term of cheating), use the world builder to edit your game.
 
WillemIV said:
You must update to 190 not 109. 190 goes faster and got a better dive speed.

WTH!? :confused::confused:
 
Gargoyle said:
Yea but the 262 was the ultimate.


RFLMAO

262 was far more stylish though I'll give it that. :D

(someone start a poll to see how many people get this threads tangent :D)
 
I loved SWOTL ^^ Gothas ruled :)
 
Sadan01 said:
Why would you want to cheat in Civ?! Geez. Play on Settler if you find it too hard.

How much did you pay for the game, $50? Was it worth it to you? Do you enjoy playing the game?

Would you have paid $200 for the same game?

That's how much it'd probably cost to buy the game, if the cheaters didn't also purchase the game. We cheaters subsidize your gaming purchases by buying games. If we didn't buy the game, the price on an individual unit would go up significantly, if developers even bothered to make games in the first place.

So next time you feel the need to be condescending to a cheater, ask yourself: Does how someone uses the game impact how you use the game? Who are they hurting? As long as cheating isn't possible in multiplayer games, why should you care?

And if you don't like how someone is using the game, offer to buy the game from them. Or shut up. But whatever you do, don't turn a cheater off from a game. Just be glad that they enjoy the same games as you, as their purchases make it more likely that similar games will be made in the future. Or not, if you've convinced enough cheaters to not play your sort of games.

After all, they can always go buy a real-time "strategy" game, or purchase a used game off of eBay. If enough of us cheaters do that, turn-based strategy games are doomed.

So check your condescending attitude at the door, and be nice to a cheater. After all, they're saving you money and providing you with entertaining games.
 
Smeee said:
RFLMAO

262 was far more stylish though I'll give it that. :D

(someone start a poll to see how many people get this threads tangent :D)

German WW2 fighter craft. Messerschmitt and Fokker, if I recall correctly.
 
Pragmatic said:
How much did you pay for the game, $50? Was it worth it to you? Do you enjoy playing the game?

Would you have paid $200 for the same game?

That's how much it'd probably cost to buy the game, if the cheaters didn't also purchase the game. We cheaters subsidize your gaming purchases by buying games. If we didn't buy the game, the price on an individual unit would go up significantly, if developers even bothered to make games in the first place.

So next time you feel the need to be condescending to a cheater, ask yourself: Does how someone uses the game impact how you use the game? Who are they hurting? As long as cheating isn't possible in multiplayer games, why should you care?

And if you don't like how someone is using the game, offer to buy the game from them. Or shut up. But whatever you do, don't turn a cheater off from a game. Just be glad that they enjoy the same games as you, as their purchases make it more likely that similar games will be made in the future. Or not, if you've convinced enough cheaters to not play your sort of games.

After all, they can always go buy a real-time "strategy" game, or purchase a used game off of eBay. If enough of us cheaters do that, turn-based strategy games are doomed.

So check your condescending attitude at the door, and be nice to a cheater. After all, they're saving you money and providing you with entertaining games.


Hoooo hooooo!! This is turning into the funniest thread on the boards!


More!
 
Pragmatic said:
How much did you pay for the game, $50? Was it worth it to you? Do you enjoy playing the game?

Would you have paid $200 for the same game?

That's how much it'd probably cost to buy the game, if the cheaters didn't also purchase the game. We cheaters subsidize your gaming purchases by buying games. If we didn't buy the game, the price on an individual unit would go up significantly, if developers even bothered to make games in the first place.

So next time you feel the need to be condescending to a cheater, ask yourself: Does how someone uses the game impact how you use the game? Who are they hurting? As long as cheating isn't possible in multiplayer games, why should you care?

And if you don't like how someone is using the game, offer to buy the game from them. Or shut up. But whatever you do, don't turn a cheater off from a game. Just be glad that they enjoy the same games as you, as their purchases make it more likely that similar games will be made in the future. Or not, if you've convinced enough cheaters to not play your sort of games.

After all, they can always go buy a real-time "strategy" game, or purchase a used game off of eBay. If enough of us cheaters do that, turn-based strategy games are doomed.

So check your condescending attitude at the door, and be nice to a cheater. After all, they're saving you money and providing you with entertaining games.

Man! Are you for real? :goodjob: No offense, but I can't stop laughing :lol:
 
Gargoyle said:
Yea but the 262 was the ultimate.

The ME-262 was nice and definately looked the part, but I would have to take the FW-190 D-9. The good old Dora-9 was the best piston fighter of the war.
 
The patch does not break the cheats. They still work. For the setting of the gold you have to remember the first number you put in identifies the player you want to get the gold amount you input after that number.

The number 0 represents the first player. If you do a custom game and select the third player to be human, then the player number for the gold cheat would be 2. It goes from 0, 1, 2 .....
 
Smeee said:
RFLMAO

262 was far more stylish though I'll give it that. :D

(someone start a poll to see how many people get this threads tangent :D)
Me109, FW190, Me262?

And then the Me163... :lol:
 
Dtry said:
The patch does not break the cheats. They still work. For the setting of the gold you have to remember the first number you put in identifies the player you want to get the gold amount you input after that number.

The number 0 represents the first player. If you do a custom game and select the third player to be human, then the player number for the gold cheat would be 2. It goes from 0, 1, 2 .....


AHAHHA! So he gave 10 grand to the AI?! :crazyeye: :king:
 
Pragmatic said:
How much did you pay for the game, $50? Was it worth it to you? Do you enjoy playing the game? [...] So check your condescending attitude at the door, and be nice to a cheater. After all, they're saving you money and providing you with entertaining games.

Actually, that was an exquisite, yet unexpected retort. Talk about the "pride of the cheaters" - my hat is off to you :cool:
 
Naveed said:
Man! Are you for real? :goodjob: No offense, but I can't stop laughing :lol:

I'm for real. Cheaters outnumber purists, and cheaters are the bread-and-butter of computer game developers. In spite of that, purists still feel the need to be condescending to cheaters, telling them that if the cheaters don't play as purists, they shouldn't even play at all.

That's the problem, though: Without the cheaters buying the game, there wouldn't be new games to buy.

Do I like hearing stories about people who completely neuter the enemy AIs, then crow about how well they've done? Not really. But I'm very pragmatic about it: that's one more copy that's reducing the cost-per-unit, and if enough people like that buy the game, the price drops to a point where I can afford to get it within a couple of months of release.

I'm a cheater, myself. However, I only play single-player, I don't brag about my "1337" skills, and I'm content to play however I darn well please. Does that make me any less valid a consumer than someone who has already beaten the game at the highest levels? Most certainly not: my money is as green as the Civ-master's.

Mind you, I most certainly do NOT approve of, and support the persecution of, people who cheat in multiplayer games. Either find someone who is at your skill level, or stick to playing the AI, but don't ruin other people's fun. (And that last bit, "don't ruin other people's fun," can be applied to the purists who mock cheaters...)

Live and let live... except for filthy multiplayer "haxxors," of course. :)
 
Meffy said:
I was thinking Messerschmitt and Focke-Wulf.

[edit] Yuppers. My memory's okay for useless trivia, just fails to retain anything useful.

Sorry. I wasn't sure if it was Fokker or Focke-Wulf. I got messed up by the joke. Which I can't tell, because it's a family-oriented forum. :p
 
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