Petition to modders: Merge RFC:E/M with BUG/BULL

[KMRblue1027]

RFC is by far the best mod I have ever played for any game but some parts of Civ4 especially RFC are micromanaging hell. BUG provides lots of helpful pop-ups and options to reduce micromanagement and add customization the the regular Civ4 interface. Personally some of my favorite parts of BUG are the scoreboard mod that allows grouping of Vassals to their respective masters and allows removing of dead nations from the board. Also the pop-ups that tell you when a city is about to become unhappy are very helpful for knowing when to stop growing with a big empire.

Now I have no idea what kinda job this would be as BUG is completely python and XML so it would likely be a chore to create such a mod. I just hope someone here might be willing to take on such a project. (Baldyr you're the python expert here I hoping you'll step up )

Here's a link to the BUG subforum if you need info.

BUG/BULL/BAT

 

[Llama231]

Is there a downside?

 

[Baldyr]

Yeah, this should totally be done. I'm not even talking about the game-play benefits now, but rather the possibilities the BUG setup would open up for mod-modding.

I'm not too familiar with BUG though, as I'm pretty much only mod-modding RFC. So I don't know exactly what such a conversion would entail.

But, since I intend to rework some of the RFC Python code anyway (to make it more accessible for mod-modding), I'll probably end up putting the whole thing into a BUG setup in the end. Or I would if I got the time...

 

[Leoreth]

But, since I intend to rework some of the RFC Python code anyway (to make it more accessible for mod-modding), I'll probably end up putting the whole thing into a BUG setup in the end. Or I would if I got the time...

Oh yes please!

 

[civ_king]

Yeah, this should totally be done. I'm not even talking about the game-play benefits now, but rather the possibilities the BUG setup would open up for mod-modding.

I'm not too familiar with BUG though, as I'm pretty much only mod-modding RFC. So I don't know exactly what such a conversion would entail.

But, since I intend to rework some of the RFC Python code anyway (to make it more accessible for mod-modding), I'll probably end up putting the whole thing into a BUG setup in the end. Or I would if I got the time...

Will that mod version run faster than the Millennium Falcon?

 

[Leoreth]

Let's make the Kessel run!

 

[Baldyr]

Will that mod version run faster than the Millennium Falcon?

I'm not sure how much speed improvements can be achieved with editing the Python code, but some would probably be possible. This is not my main goal though. (Since I did already figure out how to get rid of the constant pickling, remember? Well, Embryodead deserves a credit on that one too. )

What I would do instead is to reformat the Python into a clearer and more accessible setup. There really is no need for classes, so I would be able to take out several thousand "self" references (which reference the class instance) from the files. The most important thing would probably be to break up the several hundred lines long functions into smaller ones that can be used by mod-modders to do their own things. Sorta like turn the whole thing into what the RFCUtils.py file does, I guess.

And once this is done, the next logical step would probably be to migrate everything to a BUG setup.

 

[Leoreth]

I'm not sure how much speed improvements can be achieved with editing the Python code, but some would probably be possible. This is not my main goal though. (Since I did already figure out how to get rid of the constant pickling, remember? Well, Embryodead deserves a credit on that one too. )

What I would do instead is to reformat the Python into a clearer and more accessible setup. There really is no need for classes, so I would be able to take out several thousand "self" references (which reference the class instance) from the files. The most important thing would probably be to break up the several hundred lines long functions into smaller ones that can be used by mod-modders to do their own things. Sorta like turn the whole thing into what the RFCUtils.py file does, I guess.

And once this is done, the next logical step would probably be to migrate everything to a BUG setup.

What I strongly missed when modding is an getCoreTiles(iCiv) method. It's very annoying to write two for- and one if-clause everytime I want to do something with one civ's core/normal/broader tiles.

 

[Baldyr]

Why not make your own? But you're of course right that there could be a whole ModderHelpers module for this sort of thing.

Spoiler :

        def addArea(self, ePlayer, bCore):
                if not isValid(ePlayer):
                        ePlayer = self.targetPlayer
                if isValid(ePlayer) and isMajorPlayer(ePlayer):
                        if bCore == None:
                                lPlots = getPlotList(tBroaderAreasTL[ePlayer], tBroaderAreasBR[ePlayer])
                        elif bCore:
                                lPlots = getPlotList(tCoreAreasTL[ePlayer], tCoreAreasBR[ePlayer])
                                lPlots + list(tExceptions[ePlayer])
                        else:
                                lPlots = getPlotList(tNormalAreasTL[ePlayer], tNormalAreasBR[ePlayer])
                                for tCoords in tNormalAreasSubtract[ePlayer]:
                                        if tCoords in lPlots:
                                                lPlots.remove(tCoords)
                self.addTiles(tuple(lPlots))

This method is of course part of PyScenario and not useable in any other context, but this pretty much does what you requested. Of course you also need the getPlotList() helper function (and others):

def getPlotList(tTL, tBR):
        lPlotList = []
        for x in range(tTL[0], tBR[0]+1):
                if x > 123:
                        x -= 124
                elif x < 0:
                        x += 124
                for y in range(tTL[1], tBR[1]+1):
                        if y > 67 or y < 0:
                                continue
                        lPlotList.append((x, y))
        return lPlotList

 

[Leoreth]

I'm too lazy every time I'd need it, and when I need it again I always curse myself. But thanks!

 

[KMRblue1027]

Alsome that you guys are serous about this... I wish I could help

Also if you want to see BUG and a few other really good mods in action check out RevDCM (DCM and IDW spice up combat a lot)

 

[Baldyr]

Well... I only wish I had the time to get into this.

 

[Leoreth]

Ditto