I have never had a good game playing as "Mr Wonderful" as he seems to think of himself... So I want to give him another try. I've NEVER had a diplo win either, so this could all end in disaster !!! Large, Continents, King, 24 CS's Recently I have been starting my games on a quick NC strategy, with 1 city, then building it out from there, kicking off with Liberty. Would a basic 4 city Tradition start be better with Alex, then fill Patronage before looking at either Piety or Rationalism ? Piety or Rationalism is another question, and I was looking at taking Freedom as well. I'd like to get a diplo if possible, but I always seem to upset a few neighbours during the game..... Any feedback would be appreciated.