oldStatesman
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Thousands of us are having this video rendering issue - on various hardware platforms. Doubt if it is a simple user configuration issue.Rince said:
Poor Coding
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Zydor
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User configuration ? You must be joking, one look at Internet boards besides this one shows thousands, likely tens of thousands having these video issues. There is no doubt its a coding issue.
Besides a failed attempt to rush it to Market for Xmas Sales to boast Personal Bonus figures without proper Beta testing, they dont have a proper support structure in place. 2K are another US based Company that seem to think that the other 4.1 Billion people on this Planet outside US & Canada dont buy software. They dont provide contact details for support issues except in N America.
Not a huge issue of course, use the US mail address, however its another indicator as to the type of Company that has now got its hands on Civ IV. Unless they take drastic action soon, this will degenerate into farce.
For the record mine is 3.06P4, Radeon 9800Pro, 512Mb ram, latest drivers, 1.09 patch, etc. I also get the by now standard hassle of fog-of-war and the distorted triangles appearing on screen.
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Zy
Besides a failed attempt to rush it to Market for Xmas Sales to boast Personal Bonus figures without proper Beta testing, they dont have a proper support structure in place. 2K are another US based Company that seem to think that the other 4.1 Billion people on this Planet outside US & Canada dont buy software. They dont provide contact details for support issues except in N America.
Not a huge issue of course, use the US mail address, however its another indicator as to the type of Company that has now got its hands on Civ IV. Unless they take drastic action soon, this will degenerate into farce.
For the record mine is 3.06P4, Radeon 9800Pro, 512Mb ram, latest drivers, 1.09 patch, etc. I also get the by now standard hassle of fog-of-war and the distorted triangles appearing on screen.
Regards
Zy
Thousands of who? I certainly haven't seen thousands of people post about problems on these forums.
I notice that some people have trouble, with some particular graphics card; while other people with the same card have no trouble. Obviously the graphics card can't be the whole problem.
microbe
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karadoc said:
I haven't seen many posts saying their games work fine either - does it mean there aren't many ppl got it working?
I don't know the sales number of CIV4 but given it's on top of the sales list and ATI has a large market share, and the fact that a significant part of forum users (myself included) have/had problems, "thousands" is not an unreasonable number.
And it IS a coding issue. Patch 1.09 certainly made my poor card work much better: no black terrain (although sometimes resources are missing from the map), real leader face, yah!
warpstorm
Yumbo? Yumbo!
microbe said:
Yes, they put in special code to work around known broken drivers.
Efexeye
Silly Donkey
Radeon X800 Pro here, no problems, nice and smooth with 400 megs of RAM, after the patch.
Duelingground
AKA Gandalftheredskin
Radeon 9600 on my work PC, and 9800XT at home.
No problems with CivIV on either machine.
Those still having troubles do have my deepest sympathy, y'all are missing out on one helluva game.
No problems with CivIV on either machine.
Those still having troubles do have my deepest sympathy, y'all are missing out on one helluva game.
The Person
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I get a feeling that the problems are not only graphics card related. The other hardware probably has something to say as well.
For the record, I have Civ4 up and running on both an Nvidia GeForce 6800 and an ATI X200.
For the record, I have Civ4 up and running on both an Nvidia GeForce 6800 and an ATI X200.
I was running Civ 4 on a Radeon 9000 Pro.
It as stuttering when panning, but didn't crash or anything.
Is it poor coding on their part for an inefficient graphics engine, yeah, I think so. They should've hired someone who've done 3D to death to help make the thing better.
But also the game seems to be very CPU intensive.
I removed the graphics bottleneck with a nVidia 6600GT, and on large maps, panning is still stuttering (albeit a heck a lot better and far less annoying than the old Radeon). When I accidentally OCed my 2500+ to a 3200+ (I was monkeying around my BIOS settings to see if certain settings made a difference), the game ran a heck a lot faster.
I'm going to go on a limb and say that some of these problems are probably unstable systems, either overheating or not. When I last upgraded this sucker, I tested it for a good amount of time to make sure it's stable, and perhaps I'm just lucky, but I don't have any of the significant bugs. But when the machine was accidentally OCed, it blue screened once.
It as stuttering when panning, but didn't crash or anything.
Is it poor coding on their part for an inefficient graphics engine, yeah, I think so. They should've hired someone who've done 3D to death to help make the thing better.
But also the game seems to be very CPU intensive.
I removed the graphics bottleneck with a nVidia 6600GT, and on large maps, panning is still stuttering (albeit a heck a lot better and far less annoying than the old Radeon). When I accidentally OCed my 2500+ to a 3200+ (I was monkeying around my BIOS settings to see if certain settings made a difference), the game ran a heck a lot faster.
I'm going to go on a limb and say that some of these problems are probably unstable systems, either overheating or not. When I last upgraded this sucker, I tested it for a good amount of time to make sure it's stable, and perhaps I'm just lucky, but I don't have any of the significant bugs. But when the machine was accidentally OCed, it blue screened once.
