Potential random events ideas

[Antilogic]

Why hasn't somebody mentioned the Olympic Games yet? We were talking about it before on these forums...

If you build a Colosseum, your city might be chosen for the Olympic Games, and get a commerce boost for a turn. Have it cycle around, selecting a different colosseum each time.

 

[norse]

Some people would consider that offensive because it reinforces the belief in god, and they (the civ creators) make it so they don't really have to say whether the religion is true, whereas those random events could tip the random balance.

I know, isn't that silly? Developers have to worry about offending people on religious grounds !? Like scenario has not happened in history. Why would something that actually happened in history offend people if it was in a game? Either don't buy the game, or don't enable the feature in within the game.

On a personal note, I don't think including 9/11 is offensive. It might be a sensitive issue, but it is our reality. I don't care if they did either way. In this day and age people seem to be hush about history. Baffling.

It is just a game after all. Oh well . . .

 

[Kushluk]

Random Event: Political Correctness

History is obscured! Effect: +1 gold for fraxis. Islam spreads to NYC.

Actually I don't care that much. It would be an annoying event. I remember, I was in manhattan at the time.

 

[Mewtarthio]

I know, isn't that silly? Developers have to worry about offending people on religious grounds !? Like scenario has not happened in history. Why would something that actually happened in history offend people if it was in a game? Either don't buy the game, or don't enable the feature in within the game.

There's a pretty big difference between simulating people's reactions to religion and simulating divine intervention.

On a personal note, I don't think including 9/11 is offensive. It might be a sensitive issue, but it is our reality. I don't care if they did either way. In this day and age people seem to be hush about history. Baffling.

It's not about being offensive. It's about the fact that people who lived through 9/11 and were personally affected by it are still alive today. We have to respect their feelings and not spring a duplicate of the attack on them when they least expect it. Again, generic terror attacks are okay: It's actually saying "Terrorists have rammed an airplane into one of your buildings" that I take issue with. Seriously, it was less than six years ago.

 

[bonafide11]

I'm curious what people think about my idea of barbarians appearing in the late games in tiles that are not obscured by the FOW. The late game barbarians then would resemble terrorists, and if you have a decent military it won't be a problem.

Also, I don't think "Terrorists (or Barbarians) have attacked City X: What would you like to do?" event would be insensitive. It could be something that happens when you're at war with another Civilization or something. Just an idea, but I don't think terrorism should be a prohibited topic.

Obviously a direct reference to 9/11 would be inappropriate, but the 9/11 hijackers didn't invent the idea of terrorism. Nor did Muslims invent terrorism. In a sense, one may trace contemporary terrorism back 130 years to some other reactionaries who wore sheets over their heads and killed, threatened, and intimidated innocent civilians to make ideological statements. Of course, I'm referring to the Ku Klux Klan. If that isn't a terrorist organization, then what is?

 

[cybrxkhan]

Obviously a direct reference to 9/11 would be inappropriate, but the 9/11 hijackers didn't invent the idea of terrorism. Nor did Muslims invent terrorism. In a sense, one may trace contemporary terrorism back 130 years to some other reactionaries who wore sheets over their heads and killed, threatened, and intimidated innocent civilians to make ideological statements. Of course, I'm referring to the Ku Klux Klan. If that isn't a terrorist organization, then what is?

you can trace terrorism to the very origin of war. the Mongol tactics of killing people to scare others is terrorism. the Assyrians, Arabs, Chinese, Romans, Indians, etc. etc. would do the same thing. its quite an old tactic

 

[bonafide11]

Of course, but I said contemporary terrorism

The difference between contemporary terrorism and the warring terrorist activities that you refer to is the fact that contemporary terrorists do not represent a nation-state, but act as an underground and secretive organization. There is a difference between terrorism sponsored by warring governments and terrorism sponsored by independent organizations. War itself is a terrorist activity, but what distinguishes contemporary terrorist organizations are that they are independent of any nation-state.

 

[cybrxkhan]

ah!!! i misread sometimes.

but contemporary terrorism had origins in ancient terrorism, just as contemporary war must draw from ancient war.


anyhow, perhaps a "terrorist threat" could be a random event, when terrorists "threaten" to do something, even though they're not going to do anything. could cause some unrest in your cities, or loss of money and production (people feel unsafe)

 

[bonafide11]

Yeah, I agree that contemporary terrorism definitely has its origins in ancient terrorism, but I was only making a point because I like to criticize the KKK

Also, your suggestion for a random event sounds like a decent idea too.

 

[TheLastOne36]

I don't know if this is a good idea.

 

[cybrxkhan]

^well, there are worse...

"Sir, the enemy troops have learned how to make PHO!!!"

- surrender now before they overrun us (-3 cities)




and now you like ferrets.

 

[TheLastOne36]

I always loved Ferrets! I own 5!

 

[Kushluk]

um.. as far as non terroristic events, I think some flavour events would be fun.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

How avout this event:
One of our cities have been leveled by a nuclear device in an accident. Please choose an option:
1) Send aid to help survivors: -500 gold from treasury, temporary +25% production in damaged city
2) Demand restitution from other nation: -3 to relations, +1 happiness in all cities, other civ chooses whether to pay or not
3) Do nothing: -2 happiness in affected city

 

[ggganz]

PLANES AND SHIPS RANDOMLY EXPLODING INTO A MILLION PIECES CASUING TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE UNIT AND MINOR DAMAGE TO UNITS NEARBY AND IF YOUR EXPLODING PLANE DAMAGES ANOTHER CIV'S UNIT THEY WILL GET MAD AT YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! waddyathink?

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Insulting comics/journalism might be nice, being created in nations using Free Speech and causing diplo-penalties to other nations (stricter censorship, i.e., civic changes, could stop this)

Rarely, units (especially late game units) malfunctioning and getting damaged or destroyed would be nice, especially if you could blame terrorists or a foreign power (regardless of their involvement) and start a war. (think, Spanish-American War)

I would like it if (especially in the latter game) they introduced various casus belli, justifying going to war (reducing war weariness, not giving other nations as large of a the diplo-penalty for declaring war on a friend) and causing unhappiness in your cities for not going to war against someone.

 

[limaike]

Be really nice if episonage units could trigger war, blue flag ops like Bay of Tonkin, plant evidence of WMDs, or conversely sit on their hands while other nations/actors commit terrorist acts, so you could avoid diplomatic penalties or even gaindiplomatic good will, which you could then use in wars of opportunity.

 

[B.Rob.]

I really like the satire idea.

Also, I think that there should be terrorists (barbarians), but somehow they should be created somewhere other than in FOW, because in the late game, most of the FOW is covered up. They should mod in or add in a timer of the number of turns that a city is in disorder and the more turns that it is in disorder the greater the X% chance to produce barbarian uprising or terrorist attack, depending on the age, is to occur.

I think the idea of a terrorist attack that is not associated with a real-life event is not offensive just reality and therefore, this would just show that if you have angry citizens, sometimes shtuff happens.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

Terrorists could spawn if you change civics and are in anarchy for a very long time.

 

[cybrxkhan]

Terrorists could spawn if you change civics and are in anarchy for a very long time.

they couold also spawn in the area where a civ you destroyed one lived.