Prebuilding a wonder

[eyrei]

I think we should start prebuilding a wonder in one of our more productive cities, in preparation for Bach's Cathedral or Smith's Trading Company, or even Universal Suffrage (we have so many cities that prebuilding using a palace should work even this far in the future). Prime city candidates would be PDX, Eyr, Pherris or Khatovar. PDX is probably the best candidate, as it has already built most of the improvements available. To do it in Eyr would require some irrigation, and mines in the mountains. Pherris would require some more mines, as would Khatovar. Comments?

 

[crabapple]

I´am for building a wonder in PDX, I can change the building queue if needed

 

[Daaraa]

I posted about this a while back but I think it got lost in the old set up of the forum. I'm all for it. Would have been nice to pre-build a few others but we were at war.

 

[Shaitan]

Absolutely. Prebuilding is the only way to go.

 

[Cyc]

Yes, I agree. I mentioned this in the Khatovar thread. I believe Khatovar would be a good candidate for a pre-build, but of course PDX would be best. If Khatovar were to get some irrigation before the mining, then it would grow to use all the mining it could.

 

[eyrei]

Well, we have the agreement of PDX's governor. What say you, Donsig? Can the other cities (which are all in the first province) be included in a poll for prebuilding a wonder?

 

[eyrei]

Even with the leader available to rush a wonder, I suggest we prebuild one somewhere else in addition.

 

[Lecky]

If we rush Bach's Cath., then what about prebuilding for Smith's Trading Co. ? The combo of these 2 can be quite powerful.

 

[donsig]

Prebuilding sounds good to me but we must reconsider this in light of the war. PDX is currently building knights and Khatovar a granary.

PDX generates 14 good shields/turn but this will increas when three more mountain mines are in place. The current knight will be done in 4 turns (224 gold to rush it now).

Khatovar currently produces 10 shields/turn but this will increase at the city grows and the mountains are mined. It's granary will be done in 5 turns (200 gold to rush it now).

Pherris is more productive than either of these right now, cranking out 16 shields/turn (as much as Fox Nest!). Pherris is also still growing with more areas to be mined. It is currently working on a bank (our first?) which will be done in 4 turns (256 gold to rush it).

If we could acquire astronomy from another country we could pre-build two wonders by starting a palace and Copernicus. We will have economics in a turn or two for Smith's and when we get five banks can build Wall St.

 

[Chieftess]

I also agree on prebuilding - perhaps for Smith's Trade. And we should prebuild Copernicus's Obs., but I'm also concerned about nations like the Aztecs declaring war on us again.

 

[Plexus]

I think we should prebuild the trading co. in Philadelphia

 

[crabapple]

Originally posted by donsig
Prebuilding sounds good to me but we must reconsider this in light of the war. PDX is currently building knights and Khatovar a granary.

PDX generates 14 good shields/turn but this will increas when three more mountain mines are in place. The current knight will be done in 4 turns (224 gold to rush it now).

We dont need to build the knight to finish, we just change in the middle in PDX can begin with prebuilding wonder directly

 

[donsig]

Originally posted by crabapple
We dont need to build the knight to finish, we just change in the middle in PDX can begin with prebuilding wonder directly

I agree that could be done but would like to hear from the General about whether he needs that knight or not.

 

[donsig]

Originally posted by Plexus
I think we should prebuild the trading co. in Philadelphia

Here are the current stas on Philadelphia:

Building a university which will be done in 6 turns. Cost to rush is 164. This cost declines by 28 gold/turn as Philadelphia currently produces 7 shields/turn.

Philadelphia has room to grow and Bach's would allow an entertainer to get back to work boosting production to 8 shields/turn.

Please note that if we are to pre-build any wonders the appropriate governors will have to leave clear instructions in their provincial build queues.

 

[donsig]

Originally posted by Chieftess
I also agree on prebuilding - perhaps for Smith's Trade. And we should prebuild Copernicus's Obs., but I'm also concerned about nations like the Aztecs declaring war on us again.

For those interested in pre-building Copernicus's observatory:

Fox Nest currently produces 22 beakers, PDX 16 and Pherris 12 (at 30% science rate).

Other nations have already started building this wonder:

Babylon in Ur
Greece in Pharsalos
Iroquois in Salamanca

More may switch to this if we rush Bach's cathedral.

 

[Zur]

Why not prebuild a wonder in Fox next? If the auto-governor is used it gives 17 good shield/turn, more than any other city. This could be optimised right now to give a whopping 20 good shields/turn using already mined hills. There are also spare mountains & forests if these need to be used in future. We should be using our most productive city since we are racing against all other civs.

It also produces 1 1/2 times the beakers than any other city, which may be important since a couple of science wonders will be available soon.

Edit: I actually think that we have enough cities now to beat the other civs to building ALL the rest of the remaining wonders.

 

[Curufinwe]

Building Copernicus's Observatory or Newton's University would be wise choices in our highest science cities. This would help give us an advantage seeing as our science isn't the greatest. This would almost surely cut turns of our research time. This would help us gain an advantage and would be a most suiting replacement for the Great Library.

 

[Justus II]

I would agree with building one of the science wonders in Fox Nest, and prebuilding palace (to get ready for Smiths) in either PDX or Pherris. If we choose Pherris, let it finish the bank first, then it could actually start building the actual smiths.

 

[Curufinwe]

That would be a good plan Justus II, but if we start it early we are more assured of getting it. Even is we got economics in one turn that single turn could be vital to obtaining it. Could some one tell me how long it is until we will obtain economics? Also we should do everything to assure we obtain a wonder that would enable increased tax income, thus it would be helpful to you Justus (or whoever is in charge of the culture department next) seeing as it would give increased money for cultural improvements. Surely you agree.

 

[donsig]

We will have economics in one or two turns depending on what the science rate is set at. I doubt any one else has economics yet. The current wonder competition seems to be for Copernicus's Obs. and Bach's cathedral. We seem set to trump them on Bach's. When we do we will see if anyones cascades to Smith's. We could start pre-building Copernicus but we don't have astronomy yet and I'm not sure what the NSD says we should research next.