Protesting the latest Zouave ban

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Ayatollah So

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For those who missed it, Zouave was banned for his contribution to a thread entitled (roughly, this is from memory) "Civ 4 ideas". Zouave's idea was to keep Civ4 out of the hands of Firaxis. His main supporting point was that people had had plenty of good ideas for Civ3 and most of them (he alleged) were ignored.

This was deemed "off topic" by a moderator and Zouave got another month-long ban.

Sorry, but it IS on-topic. The objective of the thread was clearly to define how Civ could be improved in its next incarnation. Who produces that next incarnation is clearly vital -- even if there is no obvious way for us to influence the ownership of the Civ title. Furthermore, Zouave's post questions the usefulness of the thread, in effect saying, "don't get too excited, your ideas may be good but they will probably be ignored." Should someone start a new thread to question the meaningfulness of the existing thread? No, they should feel free to make such points, without fear of being banned.

"But it's part of a pattern." Or as some clever philosopher once said, "A fanatic is a person who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." I know, but consider. A viewpoint that says, roughly, "this game falls far short of its potential in many respects," is highly relevant to many threads. That's just the way it is. To say that Zouave can't add this viewpoint to all these threads, effectively says that some viewpoints must be silenced (since there is no logical way to pick which subset of threads he is allowed to write in). We aren't all gonzo for civ ;) or at least not for Civ3.

Cheerleaders for Civ3 often add comments to the effect that this or that rocks. To many threads. (I don't find this offensive, and often agree, despite being on the whole more of a Civ3 naysayer.) Yet somehow, I don't expect to see any of them being banned for a month.

I'm not hinting that Zouave was banned because his viewpoint is opposed to that of the CivFanatics powers that be. I'm not hinting, I'm saying it outright. He never would have been banned if his fanaticism had been of a more "acceptable" variety.
 
Originally posted by Ayatollah So

I'm not hinting that Zouave was banned because his viewpoint is opposed to that of the CivFanatics powers that be. I'm not hinting, I'm saying it outright. He never would have been banned if his fanaticism had been of a more "acceptable" variety.

Please. Let us give the people around here a LITTLE credit.

The previous ban I consider outrageous, but that's water under the bridge and it is too boring to discuss. I didn't even think of this place for maybe three months, and was likely happer!

Now, let's move on. I ALWAYS stay "on topic".

But thank you very much for your concern and common sense.

Oh yes, as for Civ 4. . . after Civ 3 and PTW - with now an entire forum devoted to bugs!!! - I don't think a Firaxis produced Civ 4 is going to sell too well. But so what? This is the CIVILIZATION Fanatics site - not the Firaxis site. ;)
 
oh shut up, he's banned, get over it
 
He was never banned.

Holy hell...this has got to be the most interesting complaint ever.

Quick! Someone go complain because...umm....spycatcher was banned yesterday!!! Yeah, that's the ticket!

;)
 
Wait..but I banned you yesterday! You're still posting? Wow!! Must be because you were never banned....imagine that ;)

Btw spy, it's too hard to see the CGN link in your sig on the classic CFC style..that light blue is killer.

Of course, it appears you have different links colored to only be visible on some styles :)
 
I think spycather should be banned for cockyness and disrespect for the moderators AUTHORITY! That, and it would be funny. "You can never ban me! wait.... why can't I get onto the forums anymore.... NOOOOO!"
 
@BCLG...read post number 2...your streak is over ;)

Amazing how he's was banned by me but I was never informed.....
 
Originally posted by BCLG100
i havnt seen zouave post in about 4 months and am all the better for it

Me too!!

Yes, I had left the place to the True Believers who worship at the Firaxis shrine and can't wait to give Jeff Briggs their money in hopes of saving Infogrames from bankruptcy.

When I came back here I laughed my head off seeing an entire forum devoted to PTW bugs, and problems with the patch. The more things change the more they remain the same. . .

This being the Site Feedback forum I do not think this is off-topic. :p

At least now I can post in this forum, instead months ago when site administration ragged on me distorting reality - with me unable to respond. :rolleyes:

But ah, water under that bridge.

Let us resume the Happy Talk about Firaxis and its fine line of quality products. . . :lol:
 
It's a perk. Whenever we make a long term ban we get to rag on you because you can't respond :)

Actually...if you look back i believe there was once a user who was banned and the whole forum started ragging on them!

And zouave, reality did not need to be distorted, which you'd see if you'd look back. ;)

Either way, I think it's only a matter of a few hours before lefty or thunderfall shuts down this thread. Well, it was good for a laugh anyways.
 
While he might not have been banned previously he is now. Too funny. For such a smart guy he can be a little dumb sometimes.
 
I think there should be a complaint forum opened against Firaxis. PTW is broke for internet play and wasn't that the majority of the expansion's purpose? I nominate Zouave for the mod position. :D
 
There's already a complaint forum for PTW..although I can appreciate sarcasm :)
 
Originally posted by CivMonger
I think spycather should be banned for cockyness and disrespect for the moderators AUTHORITY! That, and it would be funny. "You can never ban me! wait.... why can't I get onto the forums anymore.... NOOOOO!"

Oh shutup, get over it :p
:lol: I kill myself Seriously! :D
 
Originally posted by gonzo_for_civ
Yes he was banned for this:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=612455#post612455

If you need an explanation for it, splash some cold water on your face. Still no good? Read the rules. Still not? Then feel free to debate about it although I'll ensure you NOTHING will be reversed.

Note: The above not directed at the poster "munzy'

Wait, if Zouave is banned for another month, on 11/20, then how did he post on 11/23?

Ok I did need an explanation, but luckily I scrolled down and Chieftess did the explaining.
 
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