Quick Answers / 'Newbie' Questions

[AnubisII]

Some of your questions were answered in a thread you started called "Need Gold" http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=163887

It's very hard to tell just what you're doing wrong without being able to look at your save file. I'm guessing that you're playing "Chieftain" level, because only that level allows you to run negative income for any length of time. At Warlord and above, the computer will start destroying units and improvements if you don't have enough gold to pay for their upkeep.

You probably have too many units or buildings to support, or not enough workers roading tiles to create gold, or citizens not working the tiles that earn gold. You can upload a save file without any screen shots, but I recommend you start a separate thread to do it.

I don't understand what you all mean by roading tiles.

And what do you mean by uploading a save file? What will that do?

 

[vmxa]

Roading, is just that, A worker moves on to a tile and takes a worker action that builds a road on that tile.

Uploading is the way you make a save attached to a post so others can don't load it.

 

[AnubisII]

At this point in the game, I would make these suggestions:

1. Do NOT be defensive..........Attack, Attack, Attack. You've got knights, USE 'EM!! The AI is clueless when it comes to war..........You WILL be surprised how easily you can roll over them!

2. Don't worry about GPT at Chieftain level.........especially in THIS game..........that's the least of your problems. For levels above Chieftain, you'd better listen to what cody_the_genius says or you'll be in BIG trouble!

3. Take the continent with your knights..........then transport your military overseas to take out the "Orange" civ.

4. My goal would be to win by Domination or Conquest.........Diplomatic & Spaceship would be harder. Histographic might be the easiest way to win if you can get ahead on points........BUT, taking your continent 100% is a MUST DO.........IMHO.

5. NEXT game, study the effects of mining and irrigating

I tried to attack the fortified spearman you see by Giza, but my knight lost to it? Why did that happen? Why do I have suck rotten luck in war?

What do you mean by "Domination or Conquest"?

 

[azzaman333]

From your screenshots, you need more workers and less troops. The only time when you might need that many troops is when you are warring against 4 or more enemies.

 

[AutomatedTeller]

A knight vs. a fortified spear will win a little fewer than 2 out of 3 rounds (4 vs 2.25 or so).

It's not at all uncommon for a knight to lose to fortified spear - don't worry about it.

You have *so* many units that you could lose 2 or 3 per attack and be fine - actually, you might be better off, cause you would haev less unit support

Just attack. And attack some more. And then, when you are done attacking...

attack some more.

 

[AnubisII]

I declared war on the Greeks and they destroyed me!! Why is this happening? You say I have enough military, but I keep dying! What am I doing wrong?

 

[Turner]

Upload a save.

As for this being a 'Quick Answers' thread, you've got to understand that we don't sit in the forums just waiting for someone to ask a question. There are a lot of people that monitor this thread, but there's no guarantee that we're going to be online every time you need an answer.

 

[AutomatedTeller]

destroyed you? Do you mean that you attacked and lost some units? You declared war and they attacked and took all your cities?

the way that battle works, you *will* lose units, even if you have overwhelming superiority. Knights on muskets is pretty even, but you have a lot of knights and a lot of legionarries - unless the Greeks have cavalry, I assume that you mean that you lost some units, and that will happen.

 

[vmxa]

Start a thread and post the save and then some real response may be forth coming. It is hard to give useful answer to those types of questions in a vacuum.

 

[AnubisII]

I'm getting tired of this!!!!!!

Egypt keeps declaring war on me!! And I can't seem to defeat them. I Can manage to capture one or two cities, but that's it!! Does anyone have any advice? I tried to attack with my Knights, but they have Cavalry. And I can't find any saltpeter or coal. So I can't advance my ships, and they keep bambarding me with their ships. They keep on getting other Civilizations to declare war on me as well. My units keep dying, but I'm hardly gaining anything from their sacrafices. I'm becoming really frustrated, and tired of all this nonsense. If I have such a "strong" army, why does this keep happening to me?

 

[lost_civantares]

Upload a save (See Thunderfall's anouncement), and if you can't use the board here for what ever reason try something like http://www.badongo.com/ .

 

[EMan]

I'm getting tired of this!!!!!!

Did you mean "I'm getting tired of this GAME!!!!!!"?.......'cos you can always start a new one, where no one will declare war on you for at least a couple of thousand years........How does that sound?

BTW, we're not on the Da Ali G Show here, are we?........I was born near Staines and I just have this feeling......

 

[taipei_lad]

GPT=Gold Per Turn. That's your income (or loss in this case).

If both you and France had an MPP with Egypt, the defending country gets the help from France.

As for how to get Egypt to attack you, that's a topic for an entire separate thread. Many ways to do it (maybe). The easiest way is, if Egypt has a unit in your territory, tell them to leave or declare...often they will declare. It also helps to make them very angry with you first by demanding something unreasonable from them...like their capital city...over and over and over.

I mentioned this in a previous post, but not as a question, so I hope it doesn't break any moderator rules.

I was playing a game (Monarch, I think... maybe Regent) as Japan. My neighbours (and the only civs left) were Rome and Spain. Both were stronger than me, as I had no iron, saltpeter, or coal. After receiving notification that Roma and Spain had declared a MPP, I started getting just a wee bit nervous, so I did two things to ensure my survival (at least, I thought it would).

1) Shelled out a princely sum for a MPP with Rome (Izzy wouldn't hear of it for any price). This way, I figured that, at the very least, Rome would be neutral if Izzy went postal on me.
2) Made yet another (we had been trading for over a thousand years, and she was pleased towards me) 20 turn luxury deal with Spain.
3) Had a ROP set up with Rome, who had units deeeeep in my land, with no real way to get them out quickly.

In the end, Izzy declared (after about two turns of our deal). BOOM. Rome declares against me. What's going on here? I thought the declared-on person gets the benefit of the MPP. Or am I just a nutter?

Anyone with insight into this, please help. I appreciate it.

Sorry I don't have a save posted; I played this game at work and it's the weekend now.

 

[Ginger_Ale]

The MPP isn't triggered until a unit from that civilization attacks you - the formal declaration of war won't do it. Unfortunately, it seems like Spain didn't attack you first; you must've attacked them in defense first, and thus triggered the MPP between Spain and Rome. Rome would've declared war on Spain had Spain attacked your units first. This is just the way MPPs work, sort of weird though.

 

[Turner]

Keep in mind too that ending a turn with a unit inside the enemy AI's border constitutes an attack, for MPP purposes after a declaration of war.

 

[AnubisII]

Did you mean "I'm getting tired of this GAME!!!!!!"?.......'cos you can always start a new one, where no one will declare war on you for at least a couple of thousand years........How does that sound?

BTW, we're not on the Da Ali G Show here, are we?........I was born near Staines and I just have this feeling......

I mean I'm getting tired of constantly getting my butt kicked in this game. And I kinda wanted to keep this file.

The what show?

 

[AutomatedTeller]

ahh.. I didn't realize they had cavalry. that could cause a problem, all right.

Try uploading a save and we can take a look.

what does your military advisor say? Are you losing cities? If they have cavs and you don't, that is a pain, all right.

 

[taipei_lad]

The MPP isn't triggered until a unit from that civilization attacks you - the formal declaration of war won't do it. Unfortunately, it seems like Spain didn't attack you first; you must've attacked them in defense first, and thus triggered the MPP between Spain and Rome. Rome would've declared war on Spain had Spain attacked your units first. This is just the way MPPs work, sort of weird though.

OK. Thanks, Ginger Ale. Although I am pretty sure that I didn't attack anyone, even defensively, it's entirely possible I did. Thanks again! That really clears things up for me!

 

[sanabas]

OK. Thanks, Ginger Ale. Although I am pretty sure that I didn't attack anyone, even defensively, it's entirely possible I did. Thanks again! That really clears things up for me!

You having a military unit in Spain's territory also counts as an attack. I can't remember whose turn it is checked on though, yours, Rome's, or Spain's. If you had one there/moved into Spanish land before Spain attacked one of your units, that would trigger the MPP. Also worth noting that attacking a unit that is in your own territory doesn't trigger anything. So Spain attacking you inside Spanish territory would be ignored by Rome.

 

[AnubisII]

Upload a save.

As for this being a 'Quick Answers' thread, you've got to understand that we don't sit in the forums just waiting for someone to ask a question. There are a lot of people that monitor this thread, but there's no guarantee that we're going to be online every time you need an answer.

What do you mean? You want me to post a screen shot?