Quin is better than i thought.

[scy12]

Monarch ,again. Agriculture and mining help a lot with that first worker. Then it is a race to bronze working , mysticism , priesthood and later Wheel , pottery.
While you choose the second and third site and build Oracle. Build normal , choose a site with good production and sites with good commerce and build there forge while researching hunting and archery . Last research iron working and then use the Engineer for machinery . Great. Chou cu nu in the BC , time.
Destroy/capture everything you can (and get the wonders you missed !)until you can't no more. Peace. Out tech the Ai , by going Hybrid . Gunpowder drill 4 units , destroy everything you can. Win.


Works almost every time. Unless there are barbarians problems (just build Great Wall , if you have Stone) or some aggressive Ai declares early. Protective is definitely not a poor trait , from Chu ku nu and after. Also Stone edge is a very useful wonder to build for conquering and assimilating new lands.


The advantage that early Chuku nu give is game-winning. Protective is not a bad trait as long as you race from the ancient times to the age of the Crossbow and longbow. Quin does it Well , i believe Wang kon also does it and can follow more flexible strategies , but Mao seems very Weak.

 

[Yeekim]

The best, easiest and most satisfactory emperor level game I ever had was with Qin. Small map, Epic, Continents.

I got Stone in my second city... what followed in my capitol at dirt cheap price?
The Great Wall
The Pyramids
The Hanging Gardens

The first GE lightbulbed Machinery, another (shortly after, from forge in city No 2) Engineering. The third one built Hagia Sophia, just for more GE points.
By that time I had 5 decent cities up and running. Trebs, Chu-ko-nus and War Elephants descended on unsuspecting Mali, wiping them out from my continent almost without losses. I took one double holy city! And then one more! Plus Parthenon, Great Library and Notre Dame
Mali survived on a small island off my coast, to become extremely useful vassalised trading partner till Industrial Ages!
Also managed to snag both Spiral Minaret and Uni of Sankore...

Now, having 10 pure GE points in your capitol in pretty impressive, if you ask me. And at no expense to the military...

 

[scy12]

The best, easiest and most satisfactory emperor level game I ever had was with Qin. Small map, Epic, Continents.

I got Stone in my second city... what followed in my capitol at dirt cheap price?
The Great Wall
The Pyramids
The Hanging Gardens

The first GE lightbulbed Machinery, another (shortly after, from forge in city No 2) Engineering. The third one built Hagia Sophia, just for more GE points.
By that time I had 5 decent cities up and running. Trebs, Chu-ko-nus and War Elephants descended on unsuspecting Mali, wiping them out from my continent almost without losses. I took one double holy city! And then one more! Plus Parthenon, Great Library and Notre Dame
Mali survived on a small island off my coast, to become extremely useful vassalised trading partner till Industrial Ages!
Also managed to snag both Spiral Minaret and Uni of Sankore...

Now, having 10 pure GE points in your capitol in pretty impressive, if you ask me. And at no expense to the military...

No stone edge ? I find it is very useful in all domination victories , early wars.
The thing is , i build Oracle and stone edge in the capital and Forge , run an engineer in the second(Third) . You can't get them all but the early wonders are very useful.

It did seem kinda unsatisfactory that all my neighbors had was The Great Wall. I wared , First before construction though .

I haven't played Emperor yet but i may , now . If that means that i can now capture several wonders by unleashing the deadly wave of Chu-ko-nus.



I am wondering if you can work this strategy on Large fractal maps(Emperor).

 

[stuge]

Scy, your strat is awesome. Tried it out today and reduced Spain to insignifigance before 200 BC. Now it's 5 AD and a stack of eight Cho-ko-nus is ready to descend on unsuspecting Carthage... Looking like a fun game.

 

[Yeekim]

@scy

Nope, no Stonehenge. Stonehenge is very good if you are Charismatic, but not so very much otherwise. Also, I didn't want to pollute my GE pool and neglected religious techs. It would be perfect to build Stonehenge in 2nd city, make it holy one and build Shrine there with Prophet later - but you can't have it all on Emperor

 

[scy12]

Scy, your strat is awesome. Tried it out today and reduced Spain to insignifigance before 200 BC. Now it's 5 AD and a stack of eight Cho-ko-nus is ready to descend on unsuspecting Carthage... Looking like a fun game.

Cheers . Glad it worked for you also , what difficulty are you playing ?

Yeekim @scy

Nope, no Stonehenge. Stonehenge is very good if you are Charismatic, but not so very much otherwise. Also, I didn't want to pollute my GE pool and neglected religious techs. It would be perfect to build Stonehenge in 2nd city, make it holy one and build Shrine there with Prophet later - but you can't have it all on Emperor

Indeed , you can't. If both provided GE points i think i would always rather Stonehenge . You can conquer it though ... Does the +1 culture expire after
Calendar ?

 

[CivSetä]

Yes Qin is great! I tried machinery slingshot lately and it was almost too easy!

MC from Oracle has excellent trading value. Machinery has too, when you finally want to trade it. Just capture GL with Chokos to get one perfectly timed GS, and you are still in in Liberalism race.

 

[stuge]

Cheers . Glad it worked for you also , what difficulty are you playing ?

On monarch, no problems so far. Having three capitals before 200 AD is a real winning position.