ThERat
Deity
great dl123654, a pleasure to have you join
@plarg, give elmarae today, if no 'got it' by tonight you grab it
@plarg, give elmarae today, if no 'got it' by tonight you grab it
Rat-03-Silence on Pangaea
- Thread starter ThERat
- Start date
plarq
Crazy forever
@dl:I see your work in Emperor TradeTraining SG.It's a wonderful experience.You'll get your computer back soon?Welcome aboard!
Preflight
230 BC
Rostov > Barracks > Sword
Novgorod > Worker > Sword
210 BC
India Offers Feudalism for Monotheism, take it.
Valdivostok > Worker > Warrior
190 BC
Japan builds Great Lighthouse in Edo
Rostov > MDI > MDI
Yaro Library > Barracks
170 BC
zzz
150 BC
St Peters > MDI > Settler
130 BC
zzz
110 BC
Moscow > Settler > MDI
90 BC
zzz
70 AD
Japan demands we move from their territory. We declare war.
Peters > Settler > MDI
Nov > MDI > MDI
Take Kagoshima no losses. (2 Spear, 2 Archers killed)
50 AD
Japan bring 2 Ancient Cavalry to the fight.
Lose 2 MDI killing 1 MDI and 1 Ancient Cavalry.
- Roster -
rat -
KB -
elmarae - just played
plarq - UP
dl123654 - welcome
Hopefully putting you guys in a war situation you'll take a little longer with your turns.
230 BC
Rostov > Barracks > Sword
Novgorod > Worker > Sword
210 BC
India Offers Feudalism for Monotheism, take it.
Valdivostok > Worker > Warrior
190 BC
Japan builds Great Lighthouse in Edo
Rostov > MDI > MDI
Yaro Library > Barracks
170 BC
zzz
150 BC
St Peters > MDI > Settler
130 BC
zzz
110 BC
Moscow > Settler > MDI
90 BC
zzz
70 AD
Japan demands we move from their territory. We declare war.
Peters > Settler > MDI
Nov > MDI > MDI
Take Kagoshima no losses. (2 Spear, 2 Archers killed)
50 AD
Japan bring 2 Ancient Cavalry to the fight.
Lose 2 MDI killing 1 MDI and 1 Ancient Cavalry.
- Roster -
rat -
KB -
elmarae - just played
plarq - UP
dl123654 - welcome
Hopefully putting you guys in a war situation you'll take a little longer with your turns.
plarq
Crazy forever
Japan demands we move from their territory. We declare war.
Oh my god!You trashed our ROP reputation!
Oh my god!You trashed our ROP reputation!
plarq
Crazy forever
You could have attack their units from OUR territory.Which is described by gozpel "No talkie,only guns."
Anyway,got it.
Anyway,got it.
ThERat
Deity
well, our rep is now sort of trashed, gpt deal might be impossible, makes it even harder, better way would have been to attack from our territory before moving in. let's hope it will still be alright
ThERat
Deity
one more thing, please NO min research ever in this game. we need to treat is as AW since techs won't be traded easily.
only once we can steal, then we can go for 0% research, as for now, max and I suggest max gunpowder
only once we can steal, then we can go for 0% research, as for now, max and I suggest max gunpowder
ThERat
Deity
@elmarae, if there was no other way, it was ok, that's the nature of silence, nothing wrong with that, I would have abandoned that Jap town, it is a high flip risk and not connect to our empire, very hard to hold
plarq
Crazy forever
Begin:MM to get more gold.Start Engineering with deficit.
IBT:lose redlined MDI to Acav,Moscow MDI->Settler,Vladivostok War->Warrior.(0/1)
T1:Build Orenburg on spot.MDI flawlessly retreat AC.
IBT:Lose MDI to MDI(0/1)
T2:Kill AC,lose MDI,Kagoshima is under threat.We can't use Cats in jungle,that's too bad.(1/1)
IBT:Spear lost,Pikemen lost,Kagoshima citizen uprised.(0/2)(city lose 1)
T3:Several border expansions.
IBT:Moscow Settler->Pike.Peters MDI->MDI.
T4:4 Jap Units knocking at the door of Orenburg.I'm sorry but Orenburg just not on right place.Jungle's killing us.I think we must retreat to Petersburg.Doubt if we can really hold St.Petes.So hard.I abandon Orenburg and retreat to St.Petes.I guess Samurai and ACav will end our history.(city lose 1)
IBT:LB not Samurai show up in Jap stacks.Phew...Lose a sword.(0/1)
T5:Nothing,but look at Jap SoD in awe.2 archer,2 lB,and 3MDI.
IBT:Build wall in St.Pete.Start more pikes.Hell,Japan start KT,which means Samurai on-the-way.
T6:Cats goes 2/4 on SoD.Then straight 7-0 kill Nipponese SoD!!!Well RnG is on our side right now.(7/0)
IBT:Lose sword and pike to Jap.(0/2)
T7:Healing and building.With all these slow movers,I can't expect a better outcome from Jap.
IBT:Korean demands->War.Koreans and Carthage starts Sistine.
T8:War happiness gain 10gpt.
IBT:Carthage demands->War.Now it's really ugly.Japan lands a Samurai near Yaroslav',we're losing in every front.Size 5 Yaroslav will fall.Guess Cathy faces her destiny.
T9:Kill Jap LB
IBT:Lose Yaroslav'.Carthage run through our territory.Vladivostok going to fall.
T10:Good luck never strikes again.Now all troops cannot match Jap and Carthage,I'd say we lost already.
Summary:I don't know why our fronts fall as autumn leaves.But the aggression on Japan seems to be a tragedy.We just can't hold the front without cats in jungle.After Kagoshima disaster hope is gone.Even a 7-0 counterstike cannot rewrite our history.And the AW-like variant makes minor mistake unchangable.Demands from Carthage just add insult to injury.
We're lost:N to St.Pete. is 5 LB/MDI stack,N to Novogrod is 5 Sword/NM stack,S to Vladivostok is 2 Sword/LB stack.And our whole troops are several MDI and Pikes.
I don't know who's responsible for the defeat.Me?Elmarae?RnG?Or anything else?I guess it's hard to beat an AW like game without Horses.
Should we play another Silent Game?Or should we start training AWM?
The map is the last glance of crippled Mother Russia.
I'm really sorry team,but the cruel truth showed its ugly face in our game again.
IBT:lose redlined MDI to Acav,Moscow MDI->Settler,Vladivostok War->Warrior.(0/1)
T1:Build Orenburg on spot.MDI flawlessly retreat AC.
IBT:Lose MDI to MDI(0/1)
T2:Kill AC,lose MDI,Kagoshima is under threat.We can't use Cats in jungle,that's too bad.(1/1)
IBT:Spear lost,Pikemen lost,Kagoshima citizen uprised.(0/2)(city lose 1)
T3:Several border expansions.
IBT:Moscow Settler->Pike.Peters MDI->MDI.
T4:4 Jap Units knocking at the door of Orenburg.I'm sorry but Orenburg just not on right place.Jungle's killing us.I think we must retreat to Petersburg.Doubt if we can really hold St.Petes.So hard.I abandon Orenburg and retreat to St.Petes.I guess Samurai and ACav will end our history.(city lose 1)
IBT:LB not Samurai show up in Jap stacks.Phew...Lose a sword.(0/1)
T5:Nothing,but look at Jap SoD in awe.2 archer,2 lB,and 3MDI.
IBT:Build wall in St.Pete.Start more pikes.Hell,Japan start KT,which means Samurai on-the-way.
T6:Cats goes 2/4 on SoD.Then straight 7-0 kill Nipponese SoD!!!Well RnG is on our side right now.(7/0)
IBT:Lose sword and pike to Jap.(0/2)
T7:Healing and building.With all these slow movers,I can't expect a better outcome from Jap.
IBT:Korean demands->War.Koreans and Carthage starts Sistine.
T8:War happiness gain 10gpt.
IBT:Carthage demands->War.Now it's really ugly.Japan lands a Samurai near Yaroslav',we're losing in every front.Size 5 Yaroslav will fall.Guess Cathy faces her destiny.
T9:Kill Jap LB
IBT:Lose Yaroslav'.Carthage run through our territory.Vladivostok going to fall.
T10:Good luck never strikes again.Now all troops cannot match Jap and Carthage,I'd say we lost already.
Summary:I don't know why our fronts fall as autumn leaves.But the aggression on Japan seems to be a tragedy.We just can't hold the front without cats in jungle.After Kagoshima disaster hope is gone.Even a 7-0 counterstike cannot rewrite our history.And the AW-like variant makes minor mistake unchangable.Demands from Carthage just add insult to injury.
We're lost:N to St.Pete. is 5 LB/MDI stack,N to Novogrod is 5 Sword/NM stack,S to Vladivostok is 2 Sword/LB stack.And our whole troops are several MDI and Pikes.
I don't know who's responsible for the defeat.Me?Elmarae?RnG?Or anything else?I guess it's hard to beat an AW like game without Horses.
Should we play another Silent Game?Or should we start training AWM?
The map is the last glance of crippled Mother Russia.
I'm really sorry team,but the cruel truth showed its ugly face in our game again.
plarq
Crazy forever
The Save is here.Should we abstain and replay some turns to get some ideas from this game?
ThERat
Deity
well, I think that the war against Japan was pretty premature. we had no real stack of units to fight them and regain peace fast. opening the save I saw a few stray units, thats the way I fought wars long time ago unsuccessfully in Civ.
Kagoshima should have been just razed.
Never mind, the land wasn't really in our favor, we could try silence on emperor level again. Waiting for more input first
edit: the front line versus 2 Civs is also a bit hard.
Kagoshima should have been just razed.
Never mind, the land wasn't really in our favor, we could try silence on emperor level again. Waiting for more input first
edit: the front line versus 2 Civs is also a bit hard.
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
This does look fairly tough to defend, probably is our end. I think another try would be in hand, but I think emperor may be a bit too easy. With a decent start we could probably outresearch our competition and make the silence not as big of an issue. I think another go on demigod would be in order, but will go with whatever the team thinks. Demigod can be done, it just requires careful play.
ThERat
Deity
agree with KB, we could do it on DG, but this time more careful play and maybe better starting location.
first, before starting a new link, need to know who is in for this:
Roster:
rat
KB
plarq? please confirm
elmarae - in for replay?
dl123654? still keen?
first, before starting a new link, need to know who is in for this:
Roster:
rat
KB
plarq? please confirm
elmarae - in for replay?
dl123654? still keen?
Sure I'll join in the replay. Hopefully I have learnt my lesson about starting a war half cocked.
I take most of the blame for our loss. I started a war with an opponent with barely enough force to take one town let alone defend against the counter attack.
I'll be more careful next time.
I take most of the blame for our loss. I started a war with an opponent with barely enough force to take one town let alone defend against the counter attack.
I'll be more careful next time.
ThERat
Deity
ok then, will start another thread tonight, same conditions?
maybe we need a Civ with an earlier UU? but it must be a scientific Civ. Any suggestions.
I leave the rest as it is, pangaea etc. Hopefully a better start this time (not crammed between jungle and tundra)
maybe we need a Civ with an earlier UU? but it must be a scientific Civ. Any suggestions.
I leave the rest as it is, pangaea etc. Hopefully a better start this time (not crammed between jungle and tundra)
plarq
Crazy forever
I'll replay in Demigod.Edit:I guess this time we go Sumeria or Babylon or Greeks.
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Greeks certainly would keep us from being overrun early on. Perhaps our early survival in Goz8 could be attributed to the cheap defense of the Enkidu. A few elite Hoplites equals near invincibility in the ancient age. As for starting wars, I think we need to take an AW approach to our wars, because once we start we're in them until we are talked to. We just need more caution overall, I think. Alright, enough of my random thoughts, lets get the next one started.
