Rat 18 - Revenge of the Daimyo AWE
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ThERat
Deity
I can't see any image now...anyway, did we spot any iron??? We really need it
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SirBugs
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SirBugs
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ok, I got it.
I spent the turn exploring and building Crossbows.
No Iron yet.
No contact yet.
A warrior fortified on a hill killed off 4 Barbarian Ash.
Notes:
Some culture would be nice so Koriyama can get whales. I would go for temples (mysticism) after we get the wheel and then head for horses. If we don't have Iron we can use the attack 3 horses. Its just a lot of techs to get there.
No Iron yet.
No contact yet.
A warrior fortified on a hill killed off 4 Barbarian Ash.
Notes:
Some culture would be nice so Koriyama can get whales. I would go for temples (mysticism) after we get the wheel and then head for horses. If we don't have Iron we can use the attack 3 horses. Its just a lot of techs to get there.
ThERat
Deity
If the other 2 Civs do not have iron, at least they have a defense 1 unit only. Hope our stone bows can hurt them some. Keep on exploring for the iron.
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SirBugs
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got it; i'll play tomorrow
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
That is our only hope that they don't have iron either.
There are some hills to the SE that haven't been explored yet. We may still find some iron.
If neither AI has Iron and we don't either then I think that is the worst because we will not have iron even after we conquer them.
One reason I want to hit an AI early is in case they do have iron, but don't have it connected yet.
I recently played a regular AWE game against Persia with their nasty UU who had iron while I only had Archers and was able to overcome them and grab their iron. If we don't meet more civs, then I think we can overcome a lack of iron even if they have it. Worst case is if we get a bunch of contacts or if both civs north and south of us have iron and we don't.
Since we are toward the top of the map, I think going for yellow who is likely the only civ in that direction while using the cat equivalent and stone XBows to fend of the south civ is the best direction to go. We may even be able to seriously damage Yellow before we meet purple.
If neither AI has Iron and we don't either then I think that is the worst because we will not have iron even after we conquer them.
One reason I want to hit an AI early is in case they do have iron, but don't have it connected yet.
I recently played a regular AWE game against Persia with their nasty UU who had iron while I only had Archers and was able to overcome them and grab their iron. If we don't meet more civs, then I think we can overcome a lack of iron even if they have it. Worst case is if we get a bunch of contacts or if both civs north and south of us have iron and we don't.
Since we are toward the top of the map, I think going for yellow who is likely the only civ in that direction while using the cat equivalent and stone XBows to fend of the south civ is the best direction to go. We may even be able to seriously damage Yellow before we meet purple.
pindicator
Emperor
I tried going back through past posts, but couldn't find anything that helped me. I probably just missed something before.
This is the post you needed. We all have to do this.
ThERat
Deity
Yes, unfortunately that is what is needed, but it's just a copy paste step...nothing too troublesome
pindicator
Emperor
Ah, I had read those instructions but I see now I just misunderstood them. Got it fixed now.
July, 1480 - Pop the hut and find some barbarians.
Learn Masonry, tech now to The Wheel
Jan, 1481 - Our southern scout survives and finds another neighbor to the southeast...
I took a chance a couple turns later and lost to the crossbow in the open, but we have now declared war on the Date.
Nothing else really happened over the 10 turns. We have 6 crossbows and can go after yellow if we want or we can head after the Date now. Thankfully I didn't see any Bushis! But now we have three neighbors that will find us eventually. I had a picture of the empire at the end of the turn, but I have been spoiled by CIV and keep expecting the pic to save just by hitting print screen.
Save is here.
July, 1480 - Pop the hut and find some barbarians.
Learn Masonry, tech now to The Wheel
Jan, 1481 - Our southern scout survives and finds another neighbor to the southeast...
I took a chance a couple turns later and lost to the crossbow in the open, but we have now declared war on the Date.
Nothing else really happened over the 10 turns. We have 6 crossbows and can go after yellow if we want or we can head after the Date now. Thankfully I didn't see any Bushis! But now we have three neighbors that will find us eventually. I had a picture of the empire at the end of the turn, but I have been spoiled by CIV and keep expecting the pic to save just by hitting print screen.
Save is here.
ThERat
Deity
Pre-Turn
spot a barb ronin
eek in the north, we are at war with Date, but I still think we should expand north and defend south
wake up units and move north
1.
run into Hojo and declare war on them
2.
march on to Chiba, defended by ashi, defeat a bow with ours
3.
defeat bow at Chiba on defense in the IT
defeat 2 ashi's in Chiba
4.
zzz
5.
lost ashi in the south in the IT to a bow
spot Hojo capital with ashi as top defender, we should try and take them out
IT get the wheel, go for a cheap literature in 4 at 20%
6.
found Ishinomaki in between Chiba and our land
7.
we now have 5 bows and 1 ashi at their capital
8.
defeat 4 ashi's in the capital while loosing 1 bow + ashi
9.
attack again and while taking out the last ashi, get a MGL
on top of that this happens
to top all that, we discover this
unfortunately, not all is rosy
Fukushima is threatened by 4 bows
IT we're lucky as 2 ashi's defend against 2 bows in Fukushima
we get alphabet, since we have iron, we should head for Sojutsu, though it will take ages
10.
moving troops south
defeat one bow (remember our defense is rather weak, we need to be a little aggressive with attacks)
I left the MGL alone, we can send him south before forming an army.
Do we want to wait for bushi's for an army or use him for a bow army?
We also have to decide whether to research cheaper techs first, maybe we should
There is a settler in production to claim the iron. We badly need more workers but growth is slower than shields
Situation around Fukushima
spot a barb ronin
eek in the north, we are at war with Date, but I still think we should expand north and defend southwake up units and move north
1.
run into Hojo and declare war on them
2.
march on to Chiba, defended by ashi, defeat a bow with ours
3.
defeat bow at Chiba on defense in the IT
defeat 2 ashi's in Chiba
4.
zzz
5.
lost ashi in the south in the IT to a bow
spot Hojo capital with ashi as top defender, we should try and take them out
IT get the wheel, go for a cheap literature in 4 at 20%
6.
found Ishinomaki in between Chiba and our land
7.
we now have 5 bows and 1 ashi at their capital
8.
defeat 4 ashi's in the capital while loosing 1 bow + ashi
9.
attack again and while taking out the last ashi, get a MGL
on top of that this happens
to top all that, we discover this
unfortunately, not all is rosy
Fukushima is threatened by 4 bows
IT we're lucky as 2 ashi's defend against 2 bows in Fukushima
we get alphabet, since we have iron, we should head for Sojutsu, though it will take ages
10.
moving troops south
defeat one bow (remember our defense is rather weak, we need to be a little aggressive with attacks)
I left the MGL alone, we can send him south before forming an army.
Do we want to wait for bushi's for an army or use him for a bow army?
We also have to decide whether to research cheaper techs first, maybe we should
There is a settler in production to claim the iron. We badly need more workers but growth is slower than shields
Situation around Fukushima
ThERat
Deity
as you can see something is wrong with the file as the year tells me airfield 
so don't be surprised about my attachment year 1000BC, that's what mapstat tells me...
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so don't be surprised about my attachment year 1000BC, that's what mapstat tells me...
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If I come up before Monday, I'll need a skip. I will be very busy.
I would definitely wait for a Bushi army. Defense 1 armies are quickly useless and difficult to keep alive. Attack 2 isn't very hot either.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Bushi Army! Bushi Army!
I have it. I'll play tomorow evening.
I have it. I'll play tomorow evening.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Pre-flight – Jan 1490 - Build an army and leave it empty. The save is a bit messed up with crazy things appearing in the city screen, but it is playable.
IBT – A Date CB steps forward.
Sendai: Settler=>Crossbow
Jul 1490 – Bombard a Date.
IBT – Lose an ashi (0-1)
Jan 1491 – Kill the murderous Date CB. (1-1)
IBT – Kill two CB and lose an ashi (3-2)
Kakuda: CB=>CB
Jul 1491 – Kill two CB. (5-2)
IBT – Sendai: CB=>settler
Fukushima: cat=>worker
Jan 1492 – Nada.
Jul 1492 – Columbus sails for India.
IBT – Fukushima: worker=>CB
Ishinomaki: cat=>cat
Jan 1493 – Nada
IBT – defeat a CB (6-2)
Jul 1493 – Nada
IBT – Dates keep moving forward.
Kakuda: CB=>settler
Chiba: cat=>cat
Jan 1494 – Found Aironsaka (literally Iron Hill) start a cat.
IBT – Kill a CB and lose a CB. (7-3)
Sendai: settler=>CB
Jul 1494 – Kill the murderous CB. (8-3)
We now have a light green city (Mori) nearby to the east.
IBT – We lose our fortified CB on the mountain. (8-4)
Fukushima: CB=>worker
Jan 1495 – Move a settler into place.
After Action: Here is our empire:
Red dot is ready to settle. We should settle pink dot next. Once we have iron on line, then we need to get some luxes on line.
Save: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32851/Rat18_Jan._1495_AD.SAV
IBT – A Date CB steps forward.
Sendai: Settler=>Crossbow
Jul 1490 – Bombard a Date.
IBT – Lose an ashi (0-1)
Jan 1491 – Kill the murderous Date CB. (1-1)
IBT – Kill two CB and lose an ashi (3-2)
Kakuda: CB=>CB
Jul 1491 – Kill two CB. (5-2)
IBT – Sendai: CB=>settler
Fukushima: cat=>worker
Jan 1492 – Nada.
Jul 1492 – Columbus sails for India.
IBT – Fukushima: worker=>CB
Ishinomaki: cat=>cat
Jan 1493 – Nada
IBT – defeat a CB (6-2)
Jul 1493 – Nada
IBT – Dates keep moving forward.
Kakuda: CB=>settler
Chiba: cat=>cat
Jan 1494 – Found Aironsaka (literally Iron Hill) start a cat.
IBT – Kill a CB and lose a CB. (7-3)
Sendai: settler=>CB
Jul 1494 – Kill the murderous CB. (8-3)
We now have a light green city (Mori) nearby to the east.
IBT – We lose our fortified CB on the mountain. (8-4)
Fukushima: CB=>worker
Jan 1495 – Move a settler into place.
After Action: Here is our empire:
Red dot is ready to settle. We should settle pink dot next. Once we have iron on line, then we need to get some luxes on line.
Save: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32851/Rat18_Jan._1495_AD.SAV
ThERat
Deity
good turnset...
once we have iron and the bushi army, we should send it out to go after the AI. make sure they all do not have iron connected themselves. That will hurt the most and this way we can expand nicely.
We need more workers I guess
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SirBugsy
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once we have iron and the bushi army, we should send it out to go after the AI. make sure they all do not have iron connected themselves. That will hurt the most and this way we can expand nicely.
We need more workers I guess
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SirBugsy
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Way to go, Bugsy. Nice turnset indeed! Was that the end of the evil yellow empire or do they have a few tundra cities spread out?
