Sirian
Designer, Mohawk Games
Strauss said:
We're also both Financial and Organized, the two traits most favorable to funding overgrown empires. Plus this is Prince level, which is less harsh on the maintenance costs than higher levels.
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We're also both Financial and Organized, the two traits most favorable to funding overgrown empires. Plus this is Prince level, which is less harsh on the maintenance costs than higher levels.
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Sirian said:
Ah yes of course
.What I've also noticed is that the list of city names is much bigger than in Civ3. There you would start with 'New Washington' after about 10 cities. Now we've got 60 cities and the list still isn't exhausted. Just a funny, albeit useless, note
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Kodii
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Strauss said:Ah yes of course
What I've also noticed is that the list of city names is much bigger than in Civ3. There you would start with 'New Washington' after about 10 cities. Now we've got 60 cities and the list still isn't exhausted. Just a funny, albeit useless, note
lurker's comment: I've noticed that too, and I find it great. What does happen once the city names have all been used up? Does it add the "New" Prefix? If I'm not mistaken, you guys have just about reached the end of the list
WASHINGTON
NEW_YORK
BOSTON
PHILADELPHIA
ATLANTA
CHICAGO
SEATTLE
SAN_FRANCISCO
LOS_ANGELES
HOUSTON
PORTLAND
ST_LOUIS
MIAMI
BUFFALO
DETROIT
NEW_ORLEANS
BALTIMORE
DENVER
CINCINNATI
DALLAS
MEMPHIS
CLEVELAN
KANSAS_CITY
SAN_DIEGO
RICHMOND
LAS_VEGAS
PHOENIX
ALBUQUERQUE
MINNEAPOLIS
PITTSBURGH
OAKLAND
TAMPA_BAY
ORLANDO
TACOMA
SANTA_FE
OLYMPIA
HUNT_VALLEY
SPRINGFIELD
PALO_ALTO
CENTRALIA
SPOKANE
JACKSONVILLE
SAVANNAH
CHARLESTON
SAN_ANTONIO
OMAHA
BIRMINGHAM
HONOLULU
ANCHORAGE
SACRAMENTO
SALT_LAKE_CITY
RENO
BOISE
MILWAUKEE
SANTA_CRUZ
MONTEREY
SANTA_MONICA
LITTLE_ROCK
COLUMBUS
LE_BAM
EDIT: I noticed on the Greek list, the last city name is "Apolyton". Interesting, isn't it
CMOT Dibbler
Chieftain
I think they wanted to avoid you founding New- New York.
Iustus
King
When the list runs out, you get names from a random civ (or perhaps you get barbarian names, I am not sure, they are from somewhere, you do not get 'new" prefix on an old name).
In addition to those points above, the size of the map effects costs as well. On a huge map, the cost per city is much less than on a tiny map.
-Iustus
In addition to those points above, the size of the map effects costs as well. On a huge map, the cost per city is much less than on a tiny map.
-Iustus
Sirian
Designer, Mohawk Games
Iustus said:
Actually, although the ramp up in costs is lower, ultimately the per city costs are about the same for having a civ that is "relatively larger" than the norm.
There is a flat cap on "Number of Cities" costs, which you advance toward and reach more slowly on larger maps, but you still end up in the same place. We are surely at the cap for our difficulty level at this point. Higher difficulty would be costing us more, though. For instance on Emperor, we'd be paying 2gpt more per city (halved by Courthouses, though) on NumCities costs. That would be eating an extra 70 or 80 gpt.
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Sirian said:
He's got Uranium though...meltdown
?Darrell
Sirian
Designer, Mohawk Games
darrelljs said:He's got Uranium though...meltdown
Maybe. Although with so many forests in our lands, the effects would be interesting to observe.
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Turn 1 (1881): Salt Lake City is founded as planned.
Turn 2 (1882): Mass Media comes in and we continue with Medicine (7 turns).
Reno is also founded as planned.
England will soon take care of Bantu with Artillery.
I send the Settler from Atlanta to the northeast, and start on a Settler for New White Dot. I spy on London, England is researching Industrialism.
Turn 3 (1883): Ironworks is finished in Seattle.
Turn 4 (1884): Frederick has declared war on Peter! Elizabeth and Napoleon are also at war! Did I completely miss this in someone’s report?
Turn 5 (1885): Bantu is razed by the English.
I wait too long to take down Parthian, which is now guarded by a Rifleman!
I promote a Musketman somewhere to an Infantry to send him over there.
IBT 6: Novosibirsk falls to Germany.
Turn 6 (1886): Wall Street is finished in Washington, which is now giving out 276 commerce. I found Boise on White Dot. I forgot to paste the screenshot, please forgive me .
IBT 7: Peter offers Military Tradition and 710 gold for Steam Engine. I don’t see why not, it gives us a score bonus and Peter is no threat. The trade puts us beyond 3000 points.
Turn 7 (1887): Start Golden Age with the Great Scientist (who is just called Great Scientist, the list of names is depleted) and the Great Artist and our income triples. Start Hollywood in Seattle. Spy on Arbela, and Cyrus is 7 turns away from building the Pentagon. Spy on Paris, it’s a sad little city, no wonder France is so puny.
IBT 9: Irkutsk falls to Germany.
Turn 9 (1889): Medicine comes in, and I start on Computers. There isn’t much left at this time. I can switch to Environmentalism, but I won’t do this in a Golden Age! I spy on Hamburg: Germany is researching Plastics. I spy on Timbuktu, Mansa is also 7 turns away from Computers.
Turn 2 (1882): Mass Media comes in and we continue with Medicine (7 turns).
Reno is also founded as planned.
England will soon take care of Bantu with Artillery.
I send the Settler from Atlanta to the northeast, and start on a Settler for New White Dot. I spy on London, England is researching Industrialism.
Turn 3 (1883): Ironworks is finished in Seattle.
Turn 4 (1884): Frederick has declared war on Peter! Elizabeth and Napoleon are also at war! Did I completely miss this in someone’s report?
Turn 5 (1885): Bantu is razed by the English.
I wait too long to take down Parthian, which is now guarded by a Rifleman!
I promote a Musketman somewhere to an Infantry to send him over there.IBT 6: Novosibirsk falls to Germany.
Turn 6 (1886): Wall Street is finished in Washington, which is now giving out 276 commerce. I found Boise on White Dot. I forgot to paste the screenshot, please forgive me
.IBT 7: Peter offers Military Tradition and 710 gold for Steam Engine. I don’t see why not, it gives us a score bonus and Peter is no threat. The trade puts us beyond 3000 points.
Turn 7 (1887): Start Golden Age with the Great Scientist (who is just called Great Scientist, the list of names is depleted) and the Great Artist and our income triples. Start Hollywood in Seattle. Spy on Arbela, and Cyrus is 7 turns away from building the Pentagon. Spy on Paris, it’s a sad little city, no wonder France is so puny.
IBT 9: Irkutsk falls to Germany.
Turn 9 (1889): Medicine comes in, and I start on Computers. There isn’t much left at this time. I can switch to Environmentalism, but I won’t do this in a Golden Age! I spy on Hamburg: Germany is researching Plastics. I spy on Timbuktu, Mansa is also 7 turns away from Computers.
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IBT 10: Cyrus comes to us and demands we cancel our deals with Alex. I comply.
Turn 11 (1891): We are the largest civilization of the world. Shocking
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Turn 12 (1892): Nothing, but I do notice my pc has somehow picked up some speed since processing turns goes much faster now .
Turn 13 (1893): Our Infantry finally arrives at Parthian and attacks and razes the city.
I move the Settler one tile north of the city ruins and found Milwaukee. I’ve sent some Workers over there, they should arrive during Tatran’s early turns.
IBT 14: Rostov falls to Germany as well.
Turn 14 (1894): Rock N Roll finishes in New York. Spy on Tarsus, Cyrus is building the Three Gorges Dam (37 turns)
IBT 15: Germany’s Blitzkrieg goes on, and if Peter doesn’t get peace soon he won’t last much longer.
Turn 15 (1895): ....................
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We are more than 700 points in front of Mansa and almost 900 ahead of Cyrus.
I’ve spread Buddhism to quite some cities during my round, aided by natural spreading. There are 8 cities left without Buddhism:
I have one more Buddhist Missionary on the way to somewhere, you’ll find out where when he arrives
Tatran is up, and here is your save: EDIT: Well, something is going wrong. Whatever I upload, I keep getting sent to Telefragged and getting a 404 error. I'll try it again later.
Turn 11 (1891): We are the largest civilization of the world. Shocking
.
Turn 12 (1892): Nothing, but I do notice my pc has somehow picked up some speed since processing turns goes much faster now
.Turn 13 (1893): Our Infantry finally arrives at Parthian and attacks and razes the city.
I move the Settler one tile north of the city ruins and found Milwaukee. I’ve sent some Workers over there, they should arrive during Tatran’s early turns.
IBT 14: Rostov falls to Germany as well.
Turn 14 (1894): Rock N Roll finishes in New York. Spy on Tarsus, Cyrus is building the Three Gorges Dam (37 turns)
IBT 15: Germany’s Blitzkrieg goes on, and if Peter doesn’t get peace soon he won’t last much longer.
Turn 15 (1895): ....................
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We are more than 700 points in front of Mansa and almost 900 ahead of Cyrus.
I’ve spread Buddhism to quite some cities during my round, aided by natural spreading. There are 8 cities left without Buddhism:
I have one more Buddhist Missionary on the way to somewhere, you’ll find out where when he arrives
Tatran is up, and here is your save: EDIT: Well, something is going wrong. Whatever I upload, I keep getting sent to Telefragged and getting a 404 error. I'll try it again later.
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It inspires me for a variant contest game in our Czech Civ forum.
Sirian
Designer, Mohawk Games
Dicorion said:It inspires me for a variant contest game in our Czech Civ forum.Thanks!
The infection spreads.
If I could read the language there, I'd, erm, come Czech it out.
(Sorry. Bad Sirian. Bad!)
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) english IBT 1895 AD
Peter wants us declare war or stop trading with Frederick.Can't remember,'cause
I wasn't interested.
Cyrus wants a defensive pact.Can't accept.
1896 AD (1)
Computers is in.
Mansa Musa has Computers too.
Cyrus and Frederick want 2 techs for Industrialism.
Cyrus has started building the Three Gorges Dam already,
so he won't trade Plastics.Mansa Musa is friendly with us
and will probably trade Plastics.
I made the following deal with Frederick :
Start to research Plastics in case we can't trade for it.
IBT 1896 AD
Mali declares war on France.
1897 AD (2)
Call Mansa to see if he wants to trade Plastics.
It takes Atlanta 35 turns, without a hydro plant, to build the wonder.
That's not good enough to beat Cyrus.
Start to research Robotics, although Mali is also researching it, mechs
will secure our borders.And we can only lose if Mali keeps on conquering
it's enemies and neighbors.
IBT 1897 AD
Frederick wants us to join him in the Russian-Germany war.
1898 AD (3)
Cancel the dyes-gems deal with Mali.His citizens shouldn't become too happy
and we don't need the gems.Cancel more deals to see if we can get oil.
Four resources + 75 gpt isn't enough for Elizabeth.Let's see what she wants for oil.
No way.
Guess, we'll have to do without oil.
IBT 1898 AD
I agreed on both requests.The U.N. can't be build.
1899 AD (4)
Aretas III has been born in San Francisco.
IBT 1899 AD
Tokugawa demands we cancel our deals with Mali.He's now furious.
1808 AD (13)
Robotics is in, start to research Fiber Optics.
We won't get the free engineer from Fusion, Mansa is already halfway Fiber Optics.
1809 AD (14)
Cyrus wants 2 techs for Rocketry, Medicine + Computers.
So I made the deal with Frederick.
Note : Keep an eye on Mali. Mansa must not conquer too many cities.
Also, we can reduce trading resources. Why keep the AIs healthy and happy?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/20970/Miller_AD-1910.Civ4SavedGame.Civ4SavedGame
Peter wants us declare war or stop trading with Frederick.Can't remember,'cause
I wasn't interested.
Cyrus wants a defensive pact.Can't accept.
1896 AD (1)
Computers is in.
Mansa Musa has Computers too.
Cyrus and Frederick want 2 techs for Industrialism.
Cyrus has started building the Three Gorges Dam already,
so he won't trade Plastics.Mansa Musa is friendly with us
and will probably trade Plastics.
I made the following deal with Frederick :
Start to research Plastics in case we can't trade for it.
IBT 1896 AD
Mali declares war on France.
1897 AD (2)
Call Mansa to see if he wants to trade Plastics.
It takes Atlanta 35 turns, without a hydro plant, to build the wonder.
That's not good enough to beat Cyrus.
Start to research Robotics, although Mali is also researching it, mechs
will secure our borders.And we can only lose if Mali keeps on conquering
it's enemies and neighbors.
IBT 1897 AD
Frederick wants us to join him in the Russian-Germany war.
1898 AD (3)
Cancel the dyes-gems deal with Mali.His citizens shouldn't become too happy
and we don't need the gems.Cancel more deals to see if we can get oil.
Four resources + 75 gpt isn't enough for Elizabeth.Let's see what she wants for oil.
No way.
Guess, we'll have to do without oil.
IBT 1898 AD
I agreed on both requests.The U.N. can't be build.
1899 AD (4)
Aretas III has been born in San Francisco.
IBT 1899 AD
Tokugawa demands we cancel our deals with Mali.He's now furious.
1808 AD (13)
Robotics is in, start to research Fiber Optics.
We won't get the free engineer from Fusion, Mansa is already halfway Fiber Optics.
1809 AD (14)
Cyrus wants 2 techs for Rocketry, Medicine + Computers.
So I made the deal with Frederick.
Note : Keep an eye on Mali. Mansa must not conquer too many cities.
Also, we can reduce trading resources. Why keep the AIs healthy and happy?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/20970/Miller_AD-1910.Civ4SavedGame.Civ4SavedGame
