republic corruption higher than monarchy

[slothman]

I just switched from monarchy to republic. In one city the shield waste was 3 out of 13 in republic but only 2 out of 13 in monarchy. I tried to keep the other variables and buildings the same. I also have the patch. Does anybody know why this is true? Is it a bug in the new patch or the actual game?

 

[bakant]

If this was a game that was started before the patch, then after the patch is applied some strange things happen to the waste. However if you start a new game the waste system should work properly.

 

[eyrei]

I have actually had higher corruption in republic than the previous despotism (pre-patch). I think there is a corruption variable that Firaxis hasn't told us about. I thought, all things being equal (which they were, because it was only one turn later) that despotism had the worst corruption.

 

[slothman]

I started the game after I patched it. I think corruption might also be higher as well but I only checked waste.

 

[eyrei]

I have only played one game since the patch (still playing it actually), and waste seems to have been toned down quite a bit, though corruption still seems high. This is fine with me. In one city on my colonial island, about 1/3 the distance of the entire map away from my capital, after I got a courthouse and WLTK day, the waste was about 40% while corruption was around 75%. Keep in mind I was still under the ideal number of cities for a huge map, so this definately helped. I'll be interested to see how much it was toned down once your empire goes over that limit. Hopefully not too much, since I enjoyed the challenge of corruption in the first place.

 

[slothman]

Well it's not about corruption and waste being too high, it's about it being higher in republic than monarchary.

 

[eyrei]

Actually, my post was meant to focus more on the difference between corruption and waste since you had said that you hadn't checked the level of corruption. I thought it noteworthy that there is a large difference in the levels of each, since the patch.

Does the government affect the number of ideal cities?

 

[slothman]

I just figured out why this is occuring. I built 2 cities during the anarchy between monarchy and republic and since the number of cities affects corruption and waste then it went up.

 

[Foo]

This is my first time through CivIII, having played both CivI and CivII previously.

I did not install the patch before my current game, so I don't know how that affects corruption/waste.

When I changed government from Monarchy to Republic, I saw no change in corruption/waste. I changed again from Republic to Democracy, again no change in corruption/waste. In fact, there were also no changes to the amount of trade/shields produced in my cities, and there was no change to the happy/unhappy people.

In CivII, when you chagned government, you got unhappy people because of military units not being in cities. You also got a *huge* reduction in the ammount of corruption/waste under democracy, regardless of the distance of a city from the capital.

What has changed? Is there some bug? Do I have to start a new game since applying the patch?

Thanks

 

[eyrei]

Yes. I believe you have to start a new game to see the effect the patch has on corruption.