Restore Saves Without Rebooting. Fantastic if it was possible !

[bigbernie59]

Hello.

I played CIV 1 on Amiga for 25 years. It's over. No more Amiga.
Civ 1 on PC REQUIRES the use of DosBox.
I've ALWAYS played on Super Genius difficulty, which requires saving and resuming saves 200 times per game.I lose a match, I start again. Any loose accepted !

The huge flaw of Civ 1 has always been the requirement to quit CIV and then reboot.
I think this is the only game in the entire universe where the save mechanism doesn't work within the game.

On Amiga, it took less than 10 seconds.
With DosBox, you MUST quit everything and completely restart DosBox and Civ. Doing this 200 times per game is impossible.
Is there a way, a patch, an add-on, a trick, a crack, that would allow you to restore a save WITHOUT QUITTING CIV?
I think it's impossible. But I post. Miracles are sometimes possible.
Thank you very much.

 

[GPR]

Very strange post.
I think the forum needs better protection against AI bots.
Hmm...
There is no such thing on Amiga like "Super Genius" difficulty. Is emperror. This same like on PC game.

"saving and resuming saves 200 times per game" ???
This is trolling or what?

 

[Lord_Hill]

Agreed, it's clearly a nonsense post, but might as well set the record straight anyway.

-You do not need to quit everything and restart dosbox, but you do need to quit the game and return to the dos prompt then start it up again. You can do this without closing dosbox.
-The hardest difficulty is emperor whatever version you use
-You cannot load a game after starting play on amiga either and must quit and restart just like dos.
-There is in fact an experimental EXE hack that is part of the JCivEd mod tool which does allow loading a game during play. I haven't used it much so can't say whether there are any downsides to using it.

 

[bigbernie59]

Thanks

Level emperor was a joke.

-You cannot load a game after starting play on amiga either and must quit and restart just like dos.

Not only using PC DOS. Using Amiga DOS too.

Even further back. With the Atari Tramiel TOS, I could play Dungeon Master without having to exit the game. Beyond the steel sky too. Etc etc.....
Designed by Sid Meier and Bruce Shelley, the original Civilization is widely considered one of the greatest turn-based strategy games of all time.
I have no idea why this fantastic game, and given that the CIV editor still exists, didn't have a Windows version.
You can't even buy it. GOG doesn't offer it.

Let's just say it really bothers me to have to restart it to re-enter the saves.
A+

 

[GPR]

This really seems like chat GPT bot.

If you want improve game loading you must change one dosbox file.
In file "DOSBox 0.74-3 Options" I added to the end:

MOUNT M C:\DOS
M:
CD civ475.1
civ.EXE

As you see my dosbox folder for game is located on C partition and there is in it catalog civilization game named "civ475.1"

Then, when I click shortcut of dosbox, dosbox right away turns on for me game civilization.

 

[bigbernie59]

Hello,
Why would you think I could be a bot? My question isn't at all strange. And it has nothing to do with DosBox either.
Since its creation, and therefore also on the Amiga, Civ One has ALWAYS required you to quit the game in order to restore a save.
I was just asking if there was a way to obtain or modify the programming of Civ One to be able to restore saves without quitting the game.

I cite, for example, Kyrandia, released in 1992. Same Simon the Sorcerer. They are NOT WINDOWS GAMES and I can restore whithout quitting the game.

Why can't I do the same with Civ One, released at the same time?
Why would my question be strange? I really not understand.

I'm just asking if there is a patch that allows to modify the programming of the Civ One kernel or if the Publisher has not released a modified version 20 to 30 years later.

Simon and Kyrandia yes.
Many publishers, still in existence of course, have upgraded many games.
But the exceptional CiV 1 has been forgotten.

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A+

 

[Blake00]

Considering ChatGPT speaks better English than I do (and its the only language I know lol) I don't think this guy is a bot . Just some things getting lost in translation.

So.. welcome to CivFanatics!

Yes as a serial savescummer the restart to load savegame issue always annoyed me too.

There are several fan projects rebuilding Civ1 atm that will likely have better in-game save loading systems. However in the meantime maybe consider trying the Windows version of Civ1 (CivWIN) in a virtual machine as that has in-game saving and loading much like Civ2 and later Civ games have. If you're not a fan of CivWIN's appearance then there are mods that made it look and sound like CivDOS which you can see me using here..
https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...ization-1-hd-tour-with-mods-scenarios.673292/

EDIT: Oh wait.. I'm wrong.. just tested and even CivWIN does not have direct savegame loading and you gotta restart the app. Although in the virtual machine CivWIN can be restarted very very quickly thankfully, must faster than CivDOS which asks all the annoying graphics & soundcard questions.

 

[Citron]

You can play it on a browser

 

[Lord_Hill]

On the Mac version you can double click a save file and launch straight into it!

With JCivEd you can apply EXE hacks to speed up the process a bit by hard coding your options, skipping the options screen and skipping the title fade in. You can also try the experimental in game loading patch that I mentioned above.

There are options for the modern save scummer these days! :-D

 

[bigbernie59]

Thanks everyone.
This all stems from the fact that Civ 1 was never remastered.
Whether on Atari, Amiga, or PC DOS, all versions have the same save restore method.
As I said before, even famous games from the same year, like Simon the Sorcerer and Kyrandia, were modified later.
And you can buy them remastered on GOG.
Civ 1 itself has never been modified or adapted, and I can't even buy it anymore. It's incomprehensible.
For me, the more automated version for Windows, while still remaining PC DOS, is unusable.
This CIV version, a DOS Box, blocks my PC, requires a reboot. Incompatible display.
For example, I can run old PC games by creating a Voodoo 2 virtual graphics card and redirecting the paths to old DirectX 7, 8, and 9 and Glide games that are 25 years old, which I store in the games folder, but with CIV One, it resists everything.
It must have been programmed completely outside of the rules and customs.
Good evening.