Rhye's of Europe Code Coordination thread

[Akhera]

The polish city names map is finished!

 

[jessiecat]

Have put Balkans, Turkey, SE Med etc. on excel map and posted link on map thread.

 

[st.lucifer]

Looks great, thanks. I'll update the rivers and do a major realignment of swamp tiles and resources around Lwow, Brest-Litovsk, and some of the richer areas on the Dniester, which don't have major cities and should probably be poorer in food production.

One requested update - for the older major cities (Warszaw, Krakow, Smolensk, Lwow, maybe Halicz), can you put the name in CAPITALS with a suggested date for them to appear? (ex. SMOLENSK 800) This will make it easier to figure out which of those four squares Smolensk should occupy, and also help us when we're coding in independent cities and figuring out which should show up when.

Great job - I wouldn't have felt comfortable doing this on my own (and as you can see with the map, I'm guessing on the terrain.)

 

[Akhera]

I am too lazy to post the pictures again, so I uploaded the save
I have written the names in their native language like they should appear as independent

 

[st.lucifer]

I am too lazy to post the pictures again, so I uploaded the save
I have written the names in their native language like they should appear as independent

the save's easy enough for me to work with, thanks. i appreciate the update.

 

[ijnavy]

Unfortunately, I am still not finished the Russia map.
After I'm finished, I want to redo the geography of the Balkans and post it.

 

[ijnavy]

For some reason, they will not let me add all of the screen shots in one page.

 

[st.lucifer]

Unfortunately, I am still not finished the Russia map.
After I'm finished, I want to redo the geography of the Balkans and post it.

I'm open to input on the Balkans - the map's not perfect, and I've never been there, so i'm guessing on much of it. Just put it in the map thread, and I'll be interested to see what you come up with.

 

[jessiecat]

I'm open to input on the Balkans - the map's not perfect, and I've never been there, so i'm guessing on much of it. Just put it in the map thread, and I'll be interested to see what you come up with.

I'll be interested in seeing any change to the Balkans geography too, esp. how it might effect the city map I've done. The area south of the Danube will need some rejigging from that aspect too.

 

[Úmarth]

ljnavy there is still a problem in the Crimea: Caffa and Eupatoria should be the other way around.

 

[Akhera]

ijnavy, I don't want to nitpick, but there ar many inaccuracies in your map especially in Poland and Ukraine. The most obvious one is that Lublin should be between the Wisła and Bug rivers, not on the east bank of Bug and Brest should lie on the Bug river. Kharkov, Kursk, Rivne and Voronezh are too close to Kiev, Elblag is incorrectly spelled. I could go on...

 

[ijnavy]

I'll change the map. Should I rename the cities to what they were called when they were founded? Should the names all be in Russian? I'll also make a list of cities and when they should spawn.

 

[Whitefire]

We don't have a working tech tree yet, no. If you've got something in mind, that would be great - think expansionist on this, as we're going to have to cut things off around the industrial revolution. I'm thinking we're going to need at least 20-25 new techs, and to split or redefine some existing ones.

I'm almost finished putting something together. I'm just having issues with getting the .pdf to look right.

 

[ijnavy]

My computer with Civ is down, so I can't do either the settler map or the Balkans for now.
Here is a list of independent spawnings in Russia:
(Veliky) Novgorod 859
Polotsk 862
(Veliky) Rostov 862
Smolensk 863
Pskov 903
Chernihiv 907
Suzdal 1024
Minsk 1067
Pinsk 1097
Lubny 1107
Tver 1164

 

[ijnavy]

Here is also a list of 10 turn Plagues
(They are all only in a certain region, except the Black Death) Every region has its own unique epidemic plus the Black Death pandemic which is everywhere:
1. 541: the Plague of Justinian (Byzantine Empire)
2. The Black Death (Bubonic plague) 1340–1370 (1/3 of people died)
-Recurrences of Bubonic plague:
A. England 1400-1430
B. Germany, and Low Countries 1545-1565
C. France 1620-1640
D. Italy and Austria 1620-1640
E. Spain 1635- 1655
F. Scandinavia 1700-1720
G. Russia 1640 to 1660.
H. Middle East 640-680
3. Smallpox 1700-1710
Also, what religions are in Rhye's of Europe?

 

[onedreamer]

aren't them too many ? A cool factor of Civ is the colonization. If there are so many indipendents in Russia and Europe there won't be much left to colonize. I understand that the MA in Europe weren't exactly an age of colonization, but still I would leave room for it. I would give up on the least important ones, that from what I know (few) would be Polotsk, Chernihov, Minsk, Lubny.

 

[ijnavy]

Post 130 is 10 cities for Iberia. Russia is much bigger than Iberia, so I thought that 11 would be the min. Maybe there should be less independents everywhere.
UHV for Moscow
1. Don't loose any city by 1500 to Barbarians (Mongols).
2. Control Constantinople and no foreign culture in Russia in 1700.
3. Build the Kremlin and Tran-Siberian Railroad project by 1800 AD.

 

[jessiecat]

Post 130 is 10 cities for Iberia. Russia is much bigger than Iberia, so I thought that 11 would be the min.
UHV for Moscow
1. Don't loose any city by 1500 to Barbarians (Mongols).
2. Control Constantinople and no foreign culture in Russia in 1700.
3. Build the Kremlin and Tran-Siberian Railroad project by 1800 AD.

I agree with you even though my original list for Iberia was more than 10. The problem with Iberia is you've got a Visgothic kingdom up to 711AD which collapses and is eventually replaced with 3 other civs. You need at least 2 or 3 to start Cordoba, a couple for the Christians in the north and one for Portugal. So 10 isn't really too much. I sympathize with you and think that maybe you need about 12 for the 2 civs in the Russia/Kievan Rus area. Hopefully there'll be some compromise worked out eventually.

 

[st.lucifer]

The issue of independents in Russia is tricky, because for a long time there just weren't many cities. It's a huge space, so 10 cities seems very reasonable - maybe more than 10 are in order - but we may want to switch some of the proposed ones out for others. It's a good start.

I believe one of the proposed UHVs for Russia (Moscow) involved controlling Greater Russia (including Ukraine, Belarus, and the Baltics). I'm fine with the first proposed UHV, but I don't think they'll have time to put a railroad across Russia (let alone Siberia) - it's still up in the air whether or not railroad should even be in the tech tree, as we're planning on ending around 1800 (1850 at the latest.) If railroad's in the tree, it's going to be in roughly the same spot as Laser or Stealth - probably outside of Russia's research price range.

 

[jessiecat]

My computer with Civ is down, so I can't do either the settler map or the Balkans for now.
Here is a list of independent spawnings in Russia:
(Veliky) Novgorod 859
Polotsk 862
(Veliky) Rostov 862
Smolensk 863
Pskov 903
Chernihiv 907
Suzdal 1024
Minsk 1067
Pinsk 1097
Lubny 1107
Tver 1164

The Balkans and the Byzantine area is done. I've transferred all to an excel map and posted it on the map thread. I suggest you have a look as I forsee some problems, esp. near the Danube where there will be some overlapping.