Right of Passage Question

[chaucer]

I have a game that I keep going back to that I have already won by culture. I keep going back because I am using it to see what combat in the modern times is like. I want to see radar artillery faults, bombing faults, etc. Due to this I am slowly taking over the world. One tactic I was planning was positioning tanks and troops around all of Germany's cities. Then I was going to cancel the ROP and attack. I know that in Civ 2 when you cancelled an alliance your troops were moved out of the other civ's territory. Does the same thing happen with civ 3 at the cancelling of a ROP? I do not care about other civ's attitude. I am just testing things with this.

Thanks for the help

 

[Rain]

No your troops do not move.

 

[chaucer]

Hmmmmmm.
Can you say rape?
I think I have seen post on this. Unethical? Yes. Fun? Yes. Good strategy? Yes. If you are going to hit hit them hard and hit them fast. Too bad I let the ROP expire. I guess Germany will have to go the slow and painfull way. :slay:

 

[Rydbeck]

Have I missed something here.. Can you cancel a ongoing ROP?
I thougth you had to wait until it expired.. (20 turns)

 

[DaSilva]

Yup

Just go to the diplomacy screen then click on active and remove the ROP from the box

 

[Bamspeedy]

No, the units will not move automatically, but if you end the turn before attacking, you will be asked on the AI's turn to move your units or declare war. Also, it is not good on your reputation (towards other civs) to declare war while your units are in your enemies territory. To save your reputation, you must have ALL of your units outside of their territory, declare war, THEN move into their territory. Otherwise, it's likely no one will ever grant you another ROP. But if the civ you are attacking doesn't have contact with anyone else, your reputation is saved .

 

[Perfection]

I would like to warn you however that you actions may be bad for reputation and should do so only if you don't care about future foriegn relations

 

[NY Hoya]

Originally posted by Bamspeedy
But if the civ you are attacking doesn't have contact with anyone else, your reputation is saved .

Hmm, I was pretty sure that the reputation hit ensued as soon as the civ got contact with another civ. I know this has been discussed at length before, but it was so long ago I don't remember...

 

[Yzman]

When I destroy a civ using the tactic before they met anyone else, the AI will still say "Remember what you did to Russia?". So I'm pretty sure they know about it even if they don't make contact. But I could be wrong.

 

[Bamspeedy]

It's never happened to me. In my last HoF game, I killed off Babylon before they had contact with anyone, violating a ROP treaty and no one knew about it. Now, if they had re-spawned and ended up meeting them, then yes, the other civ would find out about it.

Also, there is the possibility, that you could have started a war when they didn't have contact, but you didn't finish them off on the first turn of war, so they had the chance to meet another civ before you finished them off.

 

[NY Hoya]

Originally posted by Bamspeedy
It's never happened to me. In my last HoF game, I killed off Babylon before they had contact with anyone, violating a ROP treaty and no one knew about it.

I think this is correct, but it's a different situation than the one you described in the other post. Still, I remember someone (Killer?) disagreeing even with this at some point in the distant past....

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

Yep i disagreed, I once was called a dealbreaker on fisrt contact when i killed off another civ at the start and they didn't respawn. But I couldn't then go bac k and recheck, so I might be mistaken.