Saudi TV presenter's face broken in many places by husband

Rania al-Baz said her husband, Mohammed al-Fallatta, beat her so hard earlier this week that he broke her nose and fractured her face in 13 places.
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Ms Baz's mother told Saudi media that Mr Fallatta beat her daughter regularly.

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The presence of problems such as domestic violence, rape, paedophilia or Aids is often simply not acknowledged our correspondent adds.

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'Husband's right'

"It is considered a husband's rights that his wife should obey him," Abeer Mishkhas, of the Saudi English-language newspaper Arab News, told BBC News Online.

"This can involve coercion or violence, and we know that the majority of cases of this kind go unreported and unnoticed."

More and more Saudi women go to civil courts to request divorces on grounds of violence, Ms Mishkhas says.

But they are still not allowed to vote, drive, own a business or travel without permission from a male guardian.


"But lets not judge them, because it is their culture, their morality, their religion, their [insert lame b.s. excuse here]"

:rolleyes:

What a bunch of hogwash!!! Nobody can justify what he did to her face! Just look at her! She was an absolutely stunningly beautiful woman who was savagely beaten!! (not that beauty has anything to do with it, but it really is a stark, sad constrast)

And people want to mealy-mouth their way into some kind of circular logic maze of relative morality to defend this abusive husband?!? :mad:

B.S.!!!
 
Originally posted by Karl Lenin
Like wife beating is a rare phenomenon in the western culture.

It is, actually, and those who do beat their wives usually go to jail...

But aside from that, how the hell does what "Western Culture" does make this any less wrong?
 
Moral relativism is a fallacy. Sometimes a culture or government perverts morals, in which case change is needed. A lack of acknowledgment will lead to serious problems. If everyone arbitrarily set up their own new morals (quite different from the obvious and rational true morals) then a state of prepetual war would erupt and it would possibly end in anarchy. The perpetrator may claim to be acting moral however it is quite obvious he is acting very immoral. He is trying to rationalize a loathsome act (many people try to rationalize their crimes).

Only one with stunted or warped comprehension of morality would be able to carry out such an act and not realize the immorality. It is pathetic that many people act like Gengis Khan.
 
Originally posted by Hundegesicht
It is, actually, and those who do beat their wives usually go to jail...

But aside from that, how the hell does what "Western Culture" does make this any less wrong?
Do you seriously believe that?

A quick google seach gave me this:

Domestic Violence occurs in 60% of marriages and is the most underreported crime.
National Crime Statistics Report, 1993.


http://www.rileycenter.org/domestic-violence-statistics.html

I just thought we shouldn't point at other cultures when the same things happen in our society.
 
The difference, Comrade, is that a woman in the U.S. can file charges in a court of law, file a lawsuit, divorce, restraining order, protection of the police force and various women's aid groups and shelters, arm herself, and the abusive spouse can go to prison...and get this, BEATING A WOMEN IS NOT CONDONED BY WESTERN CULTURE!!! :mad:

Add to that: "But they are still not allowed to vote, drive, own a business or travel without permission from a male guardian." :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Karl Lenin
Do you seriously believe that?

A quick google seach gave me this:

Domestic Violence occurs in 60% of marriages and is the most underreported crime.
National Crime Statistics Report, 1993.


http://www.rileycenter.org/domestic-violence-statistics.html

I just thought we shouldn't point at other cultures when the same things happen in our society.

Beating a women is not considered a husbands right in western culture. Domestic violence is not restricted to wife beating. It need not even be physical.
 
Originally posted by Double Barrel
The difference, Comrade, is that a woman in the U.S. can file charges in a court of law, file a lawsuit, divorce, restraining order, protection of the police force and various women's aid groups and shelters, arm herself, and the abusive spouse can go to prison...and get this, BEATING A WOMEN IS NOT CONDONED BY WESTERN CULTURE!!! :mad:
Read the article again.

She is recovering in hospital. Police are looking for Mr Fallatta, an unemployed singer.

Reuters news agency says he faces charges of attempted murder.
 
Thats islam for ya......(and don't even bother with your tired, story about how "not all muslims beat there wives" and "your a intolerant idiot" and all that cuz I've heard it a million times AND I DON"T CARE)
 
Originally posted by Karl Lenin
Read the article again.

She is recovering in hospital. Police are looking for Mr Fallatta, an unemployed singer.

Reuters news agency says he faces charges of attempted murder.

I've read it more times than I care to count.

It also said:

The BBC's correspondent Kim Ghattas says this is probably the first time ever that a case of domestic violence has received media coverage in Saudi Arabia.

:rolleyes:
 
Centurion,

AMEN TO THAT!

Seriously, Christianity is constantly thrown to the dogs on this board while Islam generally isn't questioned in regards to offending anyone. What a gross doublestandard.
 
Originally posted by CenturionV
Thats islam for ya......(and don't even bother with your tired, story about how "not all muslims beat there wives" and "your a intolerant idiot" and all that cuz I've heard it a million times AND I DON"T CARE)

I won't tell you that you are intolerant, however the word ignorant springs to mind. Can you show me anywhere in the Koran that it says that wife beating is acceptable?
 
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