CivIIIiMacguy
Chieftain
K, now I know your not supposed to cheat and all but sometimes isnt it fun to just kick some butt??? is that so wrong? is there a editor out there? i miss the cheat menu of civ2. can anyone help?? thanks
Saved Game Editor for OS 9.0.4
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Does this represent a poll vote for an OS 9 utility, then? 
I've never seen Civ2. What options did you have, and use most, in the Civ2 Cheat menu? A few small edits in the save file are probably a lot easier to provide than a complete game file editor.
I've never seen Civ2. What options did you have, and use most, in the Civ2 Cheat menu? A few small edits in the save file are probably a lot easier to provide than a complete game file editor.
CivIIIiMacguy
Chieftain
Hmm you could do just about anything with the cheat menu, but what i miss most is being able to edit advances and $$$... really thats all you need to kick some butt ;-)
AlanH, you've never seen Civ2?! You gotta try it.
The cheat menu and editor was built into the main menu of the game. So you could start a game with good intentions, and if you started to loose you could activate the cheat menu (disabling your score) and create a bunch of nukes and plant them all over the enemy formerly kicking your butt, a good release.
Or you could create a scenario (I think) from a game already in progress or and edited map. Much more open, even if the units were just photos.
The cheat menu and editor was built into the main menu of the game. So you could start a game with good intentions, and if you started to loose you could activate the cheat menu (disabling your score) and create a bunch of nukes and plant them all over the enemy formerly kicking your butt, a good release.
Or you could create a scenario (I think) from a game already in progress or and edited map. Much more open, even if the units were just photos.
Nah! I'm a noobie. I was only given a copy of Civ3 at Christmas, and never saw the game before that. Addictive though, isn't it!
So it was a full saved game editor then? Sounds like a bridge too far for a poor little amateur. I was hoping there were a just a few tweaks we could provide that would allow you to grab a lead in the game. Like CivIIIiMacguy's suggestions - change your current gold reserves, or give you a few extra techs?
Thanks n8mac.
Some of those cheat menu items look doable, some are quite complex and move into "real" editor territory, and the "at cursor" ones really require the map graphics to be visible as there would not be an easy alternative way to select locations.
If this is a serious request, then I'll try and find time to have a look at "Set human player", "Set game year", "Kill civilization", "Technology advance" and "Change money" for Civ3 .sav files. They'd all have to kill the game score, of course to avoid competition problems. I'd probably do it for OS X and see how hard it is. No one's actually voted for OS 9 or less in the poll.
Some of those cheat menu items look doable, some are quite complex and move into "real" editor territory, and the "at cursor" ones really require the map graphics to be visible as there would not be an easy alternative way to select locations.
If this is a serious request, then I'll try and find time to have a look at "Set human player", "Set game year", "Kill civilization", "Technology advance" and "Change money" for Civ3 .sav files. They'd all have to kill the game score, of course to avoid competition problems. I'd probably do it for OS X and see how hard it is. No one's actually voted for OS 9 or less in the poll
.CivIIIiMacguy
Chieftain
K Alan, I gots OSX now so im all for a saved game editor....
Hellfire
Prince
C3MG... to answer your original question, and for anyone else curious who did not know:
The original Civ3 for mac did not ship with an editor, but an OSX version was made available in these forums, and its in a thread by Brad Oliver. I'd find it but searching never works here. In a pinch, find a post with Brad Oliver and email him on it.
Due to shortsightness by some suits trying to make money off of Civ3, inadequate resources were provided to create an editor for OS 9 and Brad can only work his tail off on the equipment he already has
The original Civ3 for mac did not ship with an editor, but an OSX version was made available in these forums, and its in a thread by Brad Oliver. I'd find it but searching never works here. In a pinch, find a post with Brad Oliver and email him on it.
Due to shortsightness by some suits trying to make money off of Civ3, inadequate resources were provided to create an editor for OS 9 and Brad can only work his tail off on the equipment he already has
Brad Oliver
Civ3/4 Mac programmer
I'm always fascinatinated when people put their own spin on something. In this case, you're exaggerating greatly - I talked MacSoft into making it OSX only, because otherwise there'd be no way we'd ever be able to do the editor at all.
As it happens, that seems to be a fairly decent decision. Take a look at the "poll" for editing utilities - 1 out of 53 responses was for an OS 9 tool. While that's certainly informal and doesn't represent an accurate sampling, it is telling nonetheless.
Originally posted by Hellfire
Due to shortsightness by some suits trying to make money off of Civ3, inadequate resources were provided to create an editor for OS 9 and Brad can only work his tail off on the equipment he already has
As Brad says, there has been all of .... one vote ... for MacOS 9 so far. Live with it, guys, the "suits" were right. OS X is where the Mac is now and where it will continue to be. Today's Mac development tools of choice are Cocoa/Objective C, and that combo doesn't even build for OS 9. I cannot imagine there's more than token engineering effort being expended anywhere in the known developer universe on creating , as opposed to maintaining, software for OS 9, and for sure nothing new will be done that way.
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