Scenario:Rome in the Modern World

[sela1s1son]

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[PriestOfDiscord]

Maybe as an idea you could make faraway ex-roman colonies to give independence to. My guess would be that there wouldn't be much direct imperialist control in either Sub-Saharan Africa or the Far East.

 

[sela1s1son]

Any ideas in the way of name(of nation, and historical or fictional cities)? That's a good idea. I'll try to keep Ethiopia historical (although in this case the terraforming has ended starvation in that nation).

 

[PriestOfDiscord]

Could you list the twenty-four you have now? I don't want to double up on something you already have. No need to name of their cities, just a general area so we can think of what areas you could fill up.

 

[sela1s1son]

In Africa?
Rome Controls much of what it did, plus the former Germen holdings. It also holds a little bit of the south western part of the bulge that sticks out to the wset in the northern part on the continent.

South Africa

Ethiopia (under development)

England currently has been assigned the unclaimed portions (a lot) of Africa.

 

[sela1s1son]

When I say under development I mean to say I'm working on the nation, not thier status of power...

 

[sela1s1son]

Other nations:

Canada
America
Mexico
Cuba
Colombia
Venezuela
Brazil
Peru
Chile
Argentina
Rome
England
Russia
Mongolia (yes, that is a nation, even today in the real modern world!)
Scandinavia
China
Japan
Australia
India
Thailand
Taiwan
Korea
Saudi Arabia
South Africa

I don't think I'm missing any

 

[PriestOfDiscord]

Along with the colonies of the bigger nations, it sounds like you got all the areas covered. Just an idea though, split some of the more populated areas outside the reach of the European powers up. Maybe 2 or 3 warring Chinese factions in that dense region, between different government types(Red China, Nationalist China, Imperial China) or something like that. Lets you use more nations and at the same time splits up more troublesome nations outside the main sphere of the game. Independent Siberia, perhaps? Just some musing on the subject.

 

[sela1s1son]

I'd like to keep China, and Russia together as I want several world powers represented (not necc. Super powers, but world powers) I've changed the troops though, as China might have a lot of Infantry (IIRC), and Russia might have less in it's frontier... while America is pretty well state-of-the-art, etc...

I'm mainly looking at Africa for more Civilizations... and Africa should have some more, even if they're not world powers like Rome, America, Russia, and China...

 

[Lynx]

If you made a scenario on the mongols in the modern world, that would be cooler. in that:

- the mongols would occupy russia, but would have backed out of china, they would own modern day Iran and turkey. the ottomans wouldnt have risen to power which allowed the byzantines to endure and return to prominence by helping the allied powers in both world wars against the German-Austrian alliance, Gaining the Balkans, half of turkey, All of Italy, and Egypt.
- The Russians would hawever, occupy a good amount of the northern karelia as the mongols only went into southern russia. In addition the mongols, because of sacking the middle east, they would be a weakened state that woud virtually be out of the world picture.

If you could do this before I do, hehe then it would be really fun and interesting to play!

 

[sela1s1son]

It would be an interesting scenari, yes. However I can only tackle one project at a time... lol.

I don't know as much about the Mongols as I do about Rome, in fact I know quite a bit about Rome, and a little more then most people on Mongolia (although not too much more).

In the Byzantine thing, would they assentialy take the place of Rome in my scenario (with a different capital?). When I take this project on, perhaps you could advise me to the design of some aspects.

For now, I'm going to finish Rome in the Modern World II. I'll likely keep tinkering with it. When I start Mongolia in the Modern World, it'll be slow at first, but should accelerate in it's development.

Now that we're talking about other nations in the Modern world a few other scenarios I'm thinking of:

Mongols

Vikings (although more prominent) in the Modern World

Developed Native American nations in the Modern World (as in the Natives formed Nations, and developed at the same rate (tech speaking) as the Europeans.)

Babylon in the Modern World (perhaps I could make 'Babylon 5' a city... ;-)

Egypt in the modern world

Also: Confederate States of America in the modern world. (No offense to anyone! Just an interesting scenario!)

I'm currently thinking of others... also I may put modern nations (not tech speaking, just the nations) in the Ancient world as well... (America in 1000 B.C. ?) but that'd be more like the actual game in some respects.

Another two scenario I'd LOVE to tackel if someone could do the graphics:

Star Trek (Around Nemesis)
Babylon 5 (starting no sooner then 2248 and no later then 2258) Now that I have maps aproved by JMS (from AoG).

 

[PriestOfDiscord]

Yeah that sounds like a good plan, though I'd really consider splitting the US into Union and Confederate just so they don't swallow all of North America. As for African nations, Nigeria, Zimbabwe(sp?), Kenya, Angola, and Congo are all good choices you haven't said yet.

 

[sela1s1son]

I have access to a map, I just need the following information on the Congo, and I'd love to put them in (we'll use the larger Congo for this, and geographically put the two together):

Leader (and his/her title)
Government
Great Leaders



Also, I've changed Despotism to Fascism and changed it a bit (to make it a more realistic representation of Fascism (note... I'm refering to Fascism NOT Nazism... in my eyes they are two different things)) I just don't if I should set a few 'shunned governments' to Facism if they're communism or keeping them on Communism... (IE should America shun Facism or Communism (although, they'd really shun both!)

I don't know if I'd put the Confederacy in this scenario... America is a lot smaller then Russia, so while they may have better toys, and maybe a greater density... but that doesn't mean they have more! For example 5 Cubic lightyears of Hydrogen gas has more mass (but less density) then 1 cubic centimeter of lead! ;-)

Altough, if more people thin the Confederacy should be in the scenario... speak up, I may put it in if so desired.

The scenario I'd enjoy making, and playing, the most would be the Babylon 5 scenario or Star Trek scenaro. In the former, I'd likely make the Barbarians raiders and/or Shadows... lol! The later would likely have Borg barbarians!

Anywhoo, Merry Christmas... Happy Bob Dole's day, and Happy New Years!

(Bob Dole's day is just a day to celebrate existance of the number Pi... ;-) )

 

[PriestOfDiscord]

I like the idea of fixing/adding just a few governments for more variety between the nations. Maybe custom techs for certain nations so they only have the type of government you want them to: Imperial for Rome, Democracy for America, Communism for China, the German-British Fascist Axis....

Hmmm, I'm not well read on my African History sadly. I do know that the Congo was a Belgian colony for a long time, and has just recently had a brutal civil war. Their government would be one of the tolalaritarian types due to the goverments relative instability. As for Leaders, you might have to google up some of their generals. They should have some considering the constant warfare of the area.

And I hear what you are saying about the US. If you really think they or Russia and China should be unified, that's your call man.
I think you should split one or two of them though, just to show the relative worldwide dominace of Rome, and make it more fun for the underdogs.

 

[sela1s1son]

Custom techs??? Huh?

Also, Germany no longer exists... they were swallowed up by Rome (and kept) due to WWII. Same thing with Poland. That's why Rome has a lot of Africa compared to it's Ancient self.

To represent world dominence of the various powers only Rome, America, and Russia can build stealth fighters... and only Rome and America can build stealth bombers. Also not every nation can build Modern Armor IIRC.

I've used Google to look up great leaders for other nation, however I used LonelyPlanet.com to look of Geography, Government, and leaders. Sadly they just don't give you those details as they say one should not visit that nation at all, due to the violence.... I just want the information! ;-)

I'm probably not going to split them up for the core scenario... as if we look at the real world... America is dominent. While Russia, and China are major powers... they don't have the power America does. The intention of the scenario is not to just have Rome waltz over every nation... but to play most powers and try to win, and every power should have a challenge (granted Venezuela is a greater challenge then say, Rome... but one could win with them (if they thought it out).

I think the one power that will surprise people the most is Brazil! Thier posisition, size, etc make form a hidden power.

Don't forget, in this Scenario Japan wasn't on the Axis in WWII... they just went imperialist in the Pacific. Australia moved to counter thier moves... making Japan and Australia two major powers themselves. If I could, I'd make the tensions between them slightly higher then most.

 

[PriestOfDiscord]

Ah, I see. That all makes sound sense.

 

[sela1s1son]

Everyone cross thier fingers, if my current test goes well... then I'm going to try to add more civs as that will be all that is needed!!!

 

[sela1s1son]

Looks like the scenario works. It just takes a long time to load! I just need to adress a few troop placement concerns, and proof-read the Civilopedia.

Civs I'll likely add (for sure):Ethiopia, Congo. I just need info on the Congo (Gov, leader).

I'm looking at a few other African nation as well.

 

[Lynx]

well my mind's a computer when it comes to history, so basically the mongols would rule modern day mongolia, and all of russia east of the urals allong with modern day Iran, Turkey, Iraq, and syria.

 

[sela1s1son]

Well, if you can get me info on the Congo that would be useful... I'm going to add Ethiopia, as I already have the info for them.