Scientific Leader Names suggestions

Nahuixtelotzin

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I mean, those names are a bad joke, don't you think?

Chichatoyotl
Textalatzin
Quakeotzlitopotec

There isn'T even a Q in the Aztec language Nahuatl!

Ulan-Bator
Minzu Wenyibao
Kumujil-yin Qoro

They couldn't even think of the highly important astronomer Ulug Beg, yet have a city name in the leader list.

Ah Cacao
Smoke-Monkey
Stormy Sky

"Ah Cacao" - how funny!

Greek scientists for the Egyptians, Arabian scientists for the Babylonians, while for the Arabs they didn't even include Ibn-Sinna (Avicenna)

I know it's difficult to have real names, especially for the Ancient Civs, but can't we think of better lists?
 
I agree. I can accept some deviations (perhaps they added Ptoltemy for Egypt, is that what you meant?) but most of these are jokes. I'll try to give one or two later-I can't do much more as I'm in school right now. I'll be back, I promise. ;)
 
Do the Egyptians still have Khufu and Cheops as Great Leaders? :D
 
Well, this is off line a little bit. But I don't understand why the GSL suddenly become so important. Why are military leaders not allowed to rush great wonders.

Can you change the military leader to be able to complete great wonders in the editor? if so, how?
 
I don't think you can, but you should be able to.
 
Originally posted by RWaters
From a website...

http://www.bootsnall.com/cgi-bin/gt/camericatravelguides/dec00tikal.shtml

"Jungle tops stretch to the horizon, punctuated by the summits of four stone temples. Some 700 metres distant is the Great Plaza, where the ruler Ah Cacao, alias "King Chocolate", built the Temple of the Masks (Temple II) and the Temple of the Great Jaguar (Temple I), his burial site, ca 700 AD. :) "

:eek:
Wow, I apologize and state the contrary!
 
Originally posted by Louis XXIV
Do the Egyptians still have Khufu and Cheops as Great Leaders? :D

Not in MY version anymore. :egypt: The first thing I did after getting C3C was changing city and leader names to my custom lists.
 
Originally posted by BorgeoisBuffoon
I agree. I can accept some deviations (perhaps they added Ptoltemy for Egypt, is that what you meant?) but most of these are jokes. I'll try to give one or two later-I can't do much more as I'm in school right now. I'll be back, I promise. ;)

Ptolemy is OK, but Conon of Samos as Egyptian scientist? They did even call him "of Samos" in the list...

The Greek list has some dude named "Pythagorus" as leader. :eek: Do you know this guy? :rolleyes:
 
ouch!
 
Nahuixtelotzin : "The Greek list has some dude named "Pythagorus" as leader. Do you know this guy?"

You have never heard about the theorem of Pythagorus ? It's the first theorem we learn in geometry in here.

Well, I'm lacking of english vocabulary to explain what it is, so I'll merely translate how it comes in my head with my french words : You take a rectangle triangle ABC (a triangle where one of the angle is at 90°). We consider BC is the hypotenuse of that triangle, then we have : BC²=AB²+AC²


Well I don't have Conquests for now. However, as french, I'm curious. What's the list of french scientist GL ? Can we find Pascal, Descartes, Lavoisier, Ampere, Arago, Pasteur, the Lumière brothers, Curie, Bequerel or Charpak ?
 
Marla_Singer, they're:

Louis Pasteur
Marie Curie
Blaise Pascal
Rene Descartes

and that's it. No one really has too long of a list, so they have at least four of those.
 
Good idea!

How about putting Babylon and Sumer at the top of the list :D

:p
 
Originally posted by Mongoloid Cow
How about someone post what all the SGLs for all of the civs are in one go instead of having everyone ask for them individually.

Rome
Leonardo da Vinci
Galileo Galilei
Enrico Fermi
Guglieilmo Marconi
Lucretius

Egypt
Ptolemy
Conon of Samos
Diophantus
Hypatia
Pappus

Greece
Aristotle
Plato
Socrates
Archimedes
Euclid
Eratosthenes
Pythagorus
Heron of Alexandria
Thales of Miletus

Babylon
Hammurabi
Domninus of Larissa
Jabir Ibn Haiyan
Ibn Khaldun
Ibn Rushd
AL-Mawardi

Germany
Copernicus
Gutenberg
Max Planck
Heinrich Hertz
Johannes Kepler
Hans Geiger
Fritz Haber
Wilhelm Röntgen
Gerardus Mercator
Albertus Magnus

Russia
Ivan Pavlov
Korolev
Dmitri Mendeléev
Holonyak
Theremin

China
Confucius
Zhang Heng
Tsu Ch'ung Chi
Jia Xian

America
Albert Einstein
Thomas Edison
Benjamin Franklin
Nicola Tesla
Richard Feynman
George W. Carver
Buckminster Fuller

Japan
Aida Yasuki
Kiyosi Ito
Nagaoka Hantaro

France
Louis Pasteur
Marie Curie
Blaise Pascal
Rene Descartes

India
Brahmagupta
Nilakantha
Kamalakara
Paramesvara
Madhava
Panini

Persia
Al-Khwarizmi
Omar Khayyam
AL-Farghani
Al-Mahani
Nasir al-Tusi
Kushyar ibn Labban

Aztecs
Chichatoyotl
Textalatzin
Quakeotzlitopotec

Zululand
Senzangakhona
Dingiswayo
Malandela

Iroquois
Guyasuta
Old Smoke
Three Feathers

England
Isaac Newton
Charles Darwin
Francis Bacon
Charles Babbage
Alan Turing

Mongols
Ulan Bator
Minzu Wenyibao
Kumujil-yin Qoro

Spain
Juan de Ortega
Gherard of Cremona
Joao Baptista Lavanha

Scandianavia
Anders Angstrom
Niels Bohr
Tycho Brahe
Niels Stensen
Hans Oersted

Ottomans
Zakariya al-Razi
Thabit Ibn Qurra
Callippus of Cyzicus
Sporus of Nicaea
Dionysodorus
Menaechmus

Celts
Maredudd ap Owain
Grufudd ap Llewelyn
Rhodri Mawr

Arabia
Nicomachus of Gerasa
Ali Abbas
Al-Kindi

Carthage
Bomilcar
Tanit
Eshmuniaton

Korea
Seok Tong-sik
Taro Aso Han
Roh Moo Sun

Sumeria
Ali Ibn Rabban
AL-Battani
Abul Wafa
Ibn al-Baitar
Eutocius of Ascalon

Hittites
Hipparchus
Eudoxus of Cnidus
Heraclides of Pontus
Posidonius

Netherlands
Christiaan Huygens
Anton Brugmmans
Jan Swammerdam
Frans van Shooten

Portugal
Anthony of Padua
Pedro Nunez
Enricho Swarez

Byzantines
Geminus
Empedocles of Acragas
Apollonius of Tyana
Callinicus of Heliopolis
Ctesibius

Incas
Sinchi Roca
Manco Capac
Maita Capac

Mayans
Ah Cacao
Smoke-Monkey
Stormy Sky

Austria
Kurt Godel
Otto Frisch
Sigmund Freud
Gregor Mendel
Georg von Peurbach
 
Just looking at that, I see they generally got some good scientists and so-forth, especially for Persia... al-Khwarazmi, Omar Khayyam, al-Farghani, Nasr al-Tusi (IIRC he was the one which worked for the Il-Khans so he could also be on the Mongol list). Although I am a bit disappointed that they didn't get many ancient Babylonians, they certainly did exist. And Hammurabi... :hmm: better keep my mouth shut :D
 
The SGL lists are far better than the MGL lists, I think we all can agree with this.

Ok, some typos (I also never heard of 'Pythagorus'
:D ) can always be found, and lots of simplified spellings indicate net recherches, but compared to Horsa or Richtoffen, that was really a good job...

Though the quality of the particular lists may give some hints about the nationality of the Beta Testers....no Babylonians AFAIK



And the absence of Nobel isn't necessarily an oversight: I'd call him an Inventor, not a Scientist, and the only other inventor on the list somewhere is Edison - no Daimler, no von Braun, no Wright Bros., Watts, etc.
 
Funny how they mention Erasmus and Hugo de Groot in the introduction for the dutch but forget to include them as SGLs... Typical. :rolleyes:
 
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