HI!
I have noticed a peculiar thing in the research logics of CIV III.
Here's how it goes.
I first noticed when researching monarchy under despotism but similar effect is also some other forms of government (monarchy and republic atleast I think).
I checked how the time to complete research varies by changing the resources allocated to research, because I grew tired of the computer players researching much faster than me (playing diffuclty monarch):
Researching monarcy (some research done already though)
R%, Tax spent, Turns to complete, TOTAL RESEACH POINTS
(sorry no tables possible)
0%, 0, --
10%, 6, 23t, 138
20%,13, 23t, 299
30%, 23, 23t, 529
40%, 31, 23t, 719
50%, 49, 17t, 833
60%, 50, 16t, 800
70%, 61, 13t, 793
80%, 66, 13t, 858
90%, 80, 10t, 800
100%, 80, 10t, 800
So as you see it's not in any means linear.
By using 10% research you accumulate 6*23t = 138 points worth of research and using 100% you accumulate 80*10t = 800 points of research... 138 != 800. So it would seem it's quite much more beneficial to have lower research rate. For instance if you have 10% compared to 30% - it would take the same number of turns to complete the research, but you'd be 391 gold richer (since research effort is taken from taxes).
Here's from democracy, just starting to reseach ecology (haven't done any research to if in advance) - and it's somewhat different.
0%, 0, --t, --
10%, 133, 28t, 3724
20%, 268, 14t, 3752
30%, 412, 9t, 3708
40%, 544, 7t, 3808
50%, 690, 6t, 4140
60%, 805, 5t, 4025
70%, 949, 4t, 3796
80%, 1080, 4t, 4320
90%, 1224, 4t, 4896
100%, 1352, 4t, 5408 <== this is intresting since 3t *1352 = 4056.
so higher research rates are more unefficient. This has lead to situation where my demorcracy gains ~800 gold per turn and I buy all the technologies from the other civilizations with 500-2000 gold (which I gain in 3 rounds). And when I had monarcy I also followed similar tactic - keeping science efforts at 0% because it seemed I almost NEVER was able to be the leading scientific country (with greeks who are commercial and scientific) even with highest literacy, most population, GNP and income.
has someone noticed similar problems ? Is this just a feature of the harder difficultu levels or what?-)
Well anyways CIV3 is a great game maybe the best
.
I have noticed a peculiar thing in the research logics of CIV III.
Here's how it goes.
I first noticed when researching monarchy under despotism but similar effect is also some other forms of government (monarchy and republic atleast I think).
I checked how the time to complete research varies by changing the resources allocated to research, because I grew tired of the computer players researching much faster than me (playing diffuclty monarch):
Researching monarcy (some research done already though)
R%, Tax spent, Turns to complete, TOTAL RESEACH POINTS
(sorry no tables possible)
0%, 0, --
10%, 6, 23t, 138
20%,13, 23t, 299
30%, 23, 23t, 529
40%, 31, 23t, 719
50%, 49, 17t, 833
60%, 50, 16t, 800
70%, 61, 13t, 793
80%, 66, 13t, 858
90%, 80, 10t, 800
100%, 80, 10t, 800
So as you see it's not in any means linear.
By using 10% research you accumulate 6*23t = 138 points worth of research and using 100% you accumulate 80*10t = 800 points of research... 138 != 800. So it would seem it's quite much more beneficial to have lower research rate. For instance if you have 10% compared to 30% - it would take the same number of turns to complete the research, but you'd be 391 gold richer (since research effort is taken from taxes).
Here's from democracy, just starting to reseach ecology (haven't done any research to if in advance) - and it's somewhat different.
0%, 0, --t, --
10%, 133, 28t, 3724
20%, 268, 14t, 3752
30%, 412, 9t, 3708
40%, 544, 7t, 3808
50%, 690, 6t, 4140
60%, 805, 5t, 4025
70%, 949, 4t, 3796
80%, 1080, 4t, 4320
90%, 1224, 4t, 4896
100%, 1352, 4t, 5408 <== this is intresting since 3t *1352 = 4056.
so higher research rates are more unefficient. This has lead to situation where my demorcracy gains ~800 gold per turn and I buy all the technologies from the other civilizations with 500-2000 gold (which I gain in 3 rounds). And when I had monarcy I also followed similar tactic - keeping science efforts at 0% because it seemed I almost NEVER was able to be the leading scientific country (with greeks who are commercial and scientific) even with highest literacy, most population, GNP and income.
has someone noticed similar problems ? Is this just a feature of the harder difficultu levels or what?-)
Well anyways CIV3 is a great game maybe the best
.
