Scottish Name Crisis?

Am I correct to be worried?

  • Yes, get very worried

    Votes: 5 19.2%
  • Yes, but don't get overly-concerned about it!

    Votes: 5 19.2%
  • No, it'd just be a phase!

    Votes: 4 15.4%
  • You shouldn't care about such petty things

    Votes: 12 46.2%
  • Other (please explain)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    26

Pangur Bán

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Survey 1, the surname survey comes from the records of deaths, births and marriages in 1995. Anglo-Scottish does not usually here mean "Anglicized Scottish name"; it usualy means, an Anglo-Norman name which came to Scotland in the high/late middle ages and became confined largely to Scotland; or, also, English- sounding names which originate in Scotland. Certain types of English name proliferate in Scotland, probably owing to naming trends popular in pre-modern Scotland. There are lots of -son names in Scotland, because pre-modern Scottish society emphasized kinship and family and not feudal ties to the same degree as so-called "Frankish Europe". Colours are also popular, because of the Celtic-Scottish tendency to use colours as nicknames for great warriors. This isn’t so bad. It proves that, since the middle ages, the only immigrants to make a serious impact on Scotland’s surname genepool, are English artisans and Irish immigrants.

However look at the most popular forenames in Scotland. Survey 2, the 98 most popular boys names, reveals that only 30 of 98 names are actually Scottish.
A few other names, like Ciarin, Gary, Elliot and Jamie, arguably qualify as Scottish, but not enough really to be called such IMO. Some, OK, are Christian names common to all European countries, but most, like Ryan, Jack, Liam, Max, Jay, etc, are blatantly foreign.

What really makes me worry, though, is Survey 3, the 98 most popular girls’s names. Only 9 out of the top 98 girls names for 1998 in Scotland are actually Scottish names. That is shocking and very worrying. Where are good old Scottish names like Malcolm, Douglas, Ian, Alastair/Alasdair, Donald, Kenneth, Neil, Derek, Mirren, Ranald, Fingal, Farquhar, Lachlan, Mungo, Murdo, Dougal/ Dugald, Innes, Ivar or Donnan, names that were all significantly more popular in the last century? Or female names like Brenda, Gillian, Mairi, Lorna, Rhona/Rona, Morag, Flora, Muriel, Ina, Una or Bonnie? Are generic Anglo-American (not claiming they were originally so :p) names like Chloe, Amy, Emily, etc, sooo much better?

This makes me very sad and worried. I know that Scotland is not alone in this experience, but that really doesn't help.

QUESTION: Does this mean that Scotland is facing a cultural crisis? Am I right to be so worried?
 
1 Smith 2273 (English)
2 Brown 1659 (English)
(3. MacDonald + McDonald =1612)
3 Wilson 1539 (Anglo-Scottish)
4 Thomson 1373 (English)
5 Robertson 1370 (Anglo-Scottish)
6 Campbell 1361 (Scottish)
7 Stewart 1278 (Scots)
8 Anderson 1187 (???)
9 MacDonald 980 (Scottish) +1612
10 Scott 963 (Scottish - name originates from the Scottish border district, where in the High Middle Ages it was given to Gaelic families living in the Borders)
11 Reid 936 (Scottish)
12 Murray 914 (Scottish)
13 Taylor 877 (English)
14 Clark 826 (English)
15 Mitchell 760 (Scottish)
16 Ross 746 (Scottish)
17 Walker 730 (Anglo-Scottish)
18 Paterson 708 (Anglo-Scottish)
19 Young 698 (Anglo-Scottish)
20 Watson 696 (Anglo-Scottish)
21 Morrison 680 (English)
22 Miller 659 (English)
23 Fraser 651 (Scottish)
24 Davidson 639 (English)
25 Gray 632 (Scottish)
26 McDonald 632 (Scottish)
27 Henderson 629 (Anglo-Scottish)
28 Johnston 617 (Scottish)
29 Hamilton 614 (Scottish)
30 Graham 613 (Scottish)
31 Kerr 593 (Scottish)
32 Simpson 591 (English)
33 Martin 590 (English)
34 Ferguson 584 (Scottish)
35 Cameron 578 (Scottish)
36 Duncan 558 (Scottish)
37 Hunter 556 (English)
38 Kelly 550 (Irish)
39 Bell 547 (Scottish)
40 Grant 539 (Anglo-Scottish)
41 MacKenzie 496 (Scottish)
42 MacKay 488 (Scottish)
43 Allan 485 (Scottish)
44 Black 484 (English, but probably translating Scottish (nick)name "Dubh")
45 MacLeod 483 (Scottish)
46 McLean 477 (Scottish)
47 Russell 466 (Anglo-Scottish)
48 Gibson 456 (Anglo-Scottish)
49 Wallace 443 (Anglo-Scottish)
50 Gordon 435 (Scottish)
51 Marshall 419 (Anglo-Scottish)
52 Stevenson 414 (Anglo-Scottish)
53 Wood 403 (English)
54 Sutherland 396 (Scandio-Scottish)
55 Craig 394 (Scottish)
56 Wright 391 (English)
57 McKenzie 373 (Scottish)
58 Kennedy 372 (Scottish/Irish)
59 Jones 371 (Anglo-Welsh)
60 Burns 367 (Scottish)
61 White 367 (Anglo-Scottish)
62 Muir 362 (Scottish)
63 Murphy 360 (Irish)
64 Johnstone 358 (Scottish)
65 Hughes 355 (Anglo-Welsh)
66 Watt 354 (Scottish)
67 McMillan 352 (Scottish)
68 Mcintosh 350 (Scottish)
69 Milne 348 (Scottish)
70 Munro 345 (Scottish)
71 Ritchie 339 (Anglo-Scottish???)
72 Dickson 333 (English)
73 Bruce 332 (Anglo-Scottish)
74 King 329 (English)
75 Crawford 324 (Anglo-Scottish)
76 Docherty 322 (Irish)
77 Millar 321 (English)
78 Cunningham 316 (English)
79 Sinclair 309 (Anglo-Scottish)
80 Williamson 300 (Anglo-Scottish)
81 Hill 299 (English)
82 McGregor 297 (Scottish)
83 McKay 293 (Scottish)
84 Boyle 290 (Irish)
85 Shaw 290 (English)
86 Fleming 288 (Anglo-Scottish)
87 Moore 286 (Don't know about this one; it could be English, but it sounds like a common medieval Scottish nickname "More", which was Gaelic for "Great")
88 Christie 282 (Anglo-Scottish)
89 Douglas 282 (Scottish)
90 Donaldson 281 (Anglo-Scottish)
91 Anderson 276 (???)
92 MacLean 273 (Scottish)
93 Forbes 266 (Scottish)
94 Mcintyre 256 (Scottish)
95 Findlay 255 (Scottish)
96 Jamieson 255 (Anglo-Scottish)
97 Aitken 254 (Scottish)
98 Reilly 248 (Irish)
99 Thompson 248 (English???)
100 Hay 244 (???)
 
1. Jack
2. Lewis
3. Cameron (Scottish)
4. Ryan
5. James
6. Jamie
7. Liam
8. Matthew
9. Ross (Scottish)
10. Callum (Scottish)
11. Dylan
12. Kyle (Scottish)
13. Ben
14. Connor (Scot./Irish)
15. Adam
16. Daniel
17. Andrew
18. Scott (Scottish)
19. Kieran (Scot./Irish)
20. Nathan
21. Aidan (Scot./Irish)
22. Michael
23. Joshua
24. Thomas
25. David
26. Alexander
27. Aaron
28. Josh
29. Euan (Scottish)
30. Sean
31. John
32. Luke
33. Calum (Scottish)
34. Jordan
35. Ewan (Scottish)
36. Robert
37. Christopher
38. Mark
39. Jay
40. Craig (Scottish)
41. Finlay (Scottish)
42. Fraser (Scottish)
43. Declan
43. William
45. Robbie
46. Ethan
47. Logan (Scottish)
48. Reece
49. Samuel
50. Joseph
51. Brandon
52. Benjamin
53. Lee
54. Sam
55. Owen
56. Rory (Scot./Irish)
57. Harry
58. Paul
59. Jake
60. Shaun
61. Steven
62. Rhys
63. Max
64. Blair (Scottish)
65. Aiden (Scot./Irish)
65. Taylor
67. Oliver
68. Gregor
69. Kai
70. Stuart (Scottish- though French spelling)
71. Dean
72. Stephen
73. Jonathan
74. Angus (Scottish)
75. Ciaran
75. Darren
75. Jason
78. Charlie (Charlie is Scottish, but Charles certainly is no!t)
78. Jacob
78. Marc
78. Peter
82. Louis
83. Murray (Scottish)
84. Conor (Scot./Irish)
85. Tyler
86. Kian
87. Gary
88. Mohammed
89. Charles
89. Duncan (Scottish)
91. George
91. Joe
91. Patrick
94. Arran (Scottish)
94. Bradley
94. Finn (Scottish)
97. Grant(Scottish)
98. Alex
98. Elliot
98. Leon
98. Mitchell (Scottish)
 
1. Chloe
2. Sophie
3. Emma
4. Amy
5. Erin
6. Ellie
7. Rachel
8. Lauren
9. Megan
10. Hannah
11. Rebecca
12. Emily
13. Caitlin
14. Lucy
15. Holly
16. Katie
17. Nicole
18. Sarah
19. Abbie
20. Morgan
21. Anna
22. Niamh
23. Shannon
24. Eilidh (Scottish)
24. Zoe
26. Leah
27. Jessica
28. Louise
29. Jennifer
30. Eve
31. Molly
32. Aimee
33. Courtney
34. Jade
35. Olivia
36. Kirsty (Scottish)
37. Charlotte
38. Rachael
39. Laura
40. Bethany
41. Taylor
42. Cara
43. Abby
44. Abigail
45. Mia
46. Samantha
47. Jodie
48. Kayleigh
49. Heather (Scottish)
50. Beth
51. Stephanie
52. Iona (Scottish)
53. Georgia
53. Isla (Scottish)
55. Robyn
56. Melissa
57. Brooke
58. Grace
59. Caitlyn
60. Jenna
61. Amber
62. Natasha
63. Lisa
63. Skye (Scottish)
65. Gemma
65. Hayley
67. Freya
67. Kelsey
69. Claire
70. Alice
70. Natalie
72. Catherine
72. Danielle
72. Demi
75. Eva
75. Paige
77. Kate
78. Chelsea
78. Ciara
78. Kayla
78. Nicola
82. Alicia
82. Elizabeth
82. Rebekah
85. Alex
85. Kara
87. Carly
87. Charlie
89. Elle
89. Hollie
91. Catriona (Scottish)
91. Kaitlyn
91. Kiera (Scottish)
94. Carla
94. Fiona (Scottish)
96. Alexandra
96. Ella
98. Katherine
98. Naomi
98. Rosie
 
im #17 on the guys and a semi-close friend is #75 (the first one, although i am acquanted [sp] with a girl named Paige) on the girls.

but my close friend has the coolest name ever, dont know of what decent but its spelt De' Ana
 
I would have to know more about Scotland than simply name distribution to make an oppinion. What about language? Do you they still speak Gaelic?
 
Why? Language is a big part of culture. Maybe that's where the problem originates...
 
In the Information Age, Scotland is an English-speaking country with a largely (98%, I assume) English-speaking culture.

English-speaking culture, by and large, spews forth from two sources: the United States and England. It makes sense that other English-speaking areas are adopting names and customs that are more in comformity with Anglo-American norms.
 
Hmm... I always thought most scots were named Ferguson.. ;)

And thanks for posting the list, btw. Me and some friends will likely use some of the names when creating our scottish alter ego's when playing CM. :goodjob:
 
Well, to be a bit more on-topic, the same thing happened in Norway some years ago. Everybody named their kids by foreign names, and not the old norse one. But suddenly it became popular to preserve our name-heritage, and the old names became popular again. Now it's back to naming kids foreign names again. I think it goes in waves..
 
Originally posted by Cilpot
Hmm... I always thought most scots were named Ferguson.. ;)

And thanks for posting the list, btw. Me and some friends will likely use some of the names when creating our scottish alter ego's when playing CM. :goodjob:

So, what will you go for, Ryan Smith? Harry Jones? Marc Wood? :lol:
 
The same thing is happening with a part of the brazilian poor population. Instead of namig their children with tradional portuguese names, lots of kids form unprivileged familys are given mispelled english names. For exemple, they want to name their kid Wellington, but since have no domain over the english language, spell it "Uélintom". There are also alot of "-son" names, another clear imitation of English.
 
This happened over 20 years ago already. Just few young people have old Dutch names as Jan/Johan, Kees, Piet(er), Gijs and I don't know what else. In my class, there's maybe one Dutch name: Koen. Then there's names like Kevin (Irish), Erik (Scandinavian), Harco (Germanic), Dave, Ronald, Jitser (Frisian I think), Jerjay, Marc, Ako, Mario....doesn't sound very Dutch does it? I don't worry though. It's not that a big issue. It's not like our culture deteriorates because of that. It deteriorates, or maybe it evolves...I don't know. What happens has to do with mass communication though.
 
Oh no! Scotland is being invaded by the Jacks and Ryans.:rolleyes: In my opinion weird names are a good thing, unless of course they are names that are also words like "Destiny":vomit:
 
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