Second Leader! Tales of Heroism!

[Sir Donald III]

Ok, guys. Here is a list of options for what to do with a Second Leader. Note the "If Available" options.

Build another Army! (As per War Ministry)
Build The Art of War. (if still available)
Build the Forbidden Palace
Build the Heroic Epic (if available)
Other (please specify)
Abstain from Leading!

If you have any ideas on what this "Other" may be, please contact me. I need to get this to poll within 21 Hours, so I can have the results in the TC.

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I also thought of another good use for this thread... Trying to place the Heroic Epic!

In my persoanl opinion, the HE would be best placed in a city that is away from the front lines, yet either
A: Needs a good infusion of Culture if generated via a Leader OR
B: Has a good number of Shields per Turn if not generated by a Leader.

Suggestions are Welcome.

 

[Cyc]

I believe that it is way too early to poll for a second Leader. If you do wind up polling this, there should another poll for this later if more options become available if and when we get a second GL.

 

[classical_hero]

We don't even have our first leader yet and getting them is very inconsistent. There was one game in Conquests, a conquests where it took me almost 2/3 of the way through the senario til I got my first Leader. I was very annoyed at that, even though I had lots of elite units and used them regularly, buts that's it a bit off the topic. Our second leader should be used for the purpose that is most necessary at the time. Since this is vanilla, it would be wise to use any subsequent leaders for wonders if we have them. Once we get our first leader, which as according to the poll for that question, is used for an army.

The poll that we get would be vague because we do not know all the conditions that we get the second leader. This poll would be more of a conditional poll because it is possible to get two leaders very soon, although it is still unlikely that we would get even one leader. My other would be wait. This would require a second poll if we chose that option.

My Edit is in bold.

 

[Ashburnham]

There's no telling when-- if ever-- we'll get our second leader. When he appears, who knows now what we'll need him for then. I too think that it's unwise to have a poll deciding what to do with him. Wait until we get closer to when it could happen.

 

[Sir Donald III]

Well, there's a flip side to what you guys are saying...

What if we get 2 Leaders in the same turn?

In other words, it could happen in the same turn as our Swords Army from Leader 1 is formed.

The very reason why I polled for the First Leader when I did, is so that we wouldn't have to grind the TC to a halt the moment the "Rename Victorious Unit" dialogue box came up. (That box does appear in Vanilla 1.29.)

I know I've never seen 2 Leaders in the same turn, but it's been known to happen, and I would rather get caught with plans I would have to dump than without a plan at all.

Heck, if we don't get a leader at all in the Roman War, I may have to end up repolling the First Leader.

I'm trying to be proactive in this so as not to disrupt the TC too much. (Yes, I was the one who called to stop the TC to debate possible trades that could go against Trade Ministers' Instructions.)


And, at any rate, I'd need to plant locations for FPs and HEs and Culture should probably determine locations for Wonders before we actually bring the Leader to poll.

So... I guess I probably would have to wait until my Suboptions are in a row before putting Leader #2 to a poll. I mean, it would do no good for me to say "Reserve Leader #2 for FP," if we don't know where FP is going to be.

Speaking of Which...

Thoughts on locations for Heroic Epic, please?

 

[classical_hero]

Thoughts on locations for Heroic Epic, please?

That is a tough one. It again really depends on which city we think has the spare capacity to allow such a move. But here is a list of the cities that I think are a good bet at the moment. This does not take into account the increase in production in cities that will get a bonus from the FP. Here is the url for reference. http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/City_Production.JPG

These are the top five cites and have a production of more than 10spt, so that It will take the Heroic Epic 20 turns or less. Because the great culture bonus, it might be best to to try and get it a city that need help in culture, but this might be a bit risky and would require the use of a GL to maximise it benefit. I believe that these options are the best at the moment. I certainly enjoy using a screenshot utility.