Fellow Yasutanians, I would like to submit a city site called Coppertown for your consideration.
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Falcon02
General
Looks like a good spot... a little far from our current borders though for my normal tastes... but we want to make sure we get either Copper or Iron, and seeing as we don't have Iron working yet.... and this is our best source of Copper, I say go for it... want to be extra careful to make sure the escort can withstand any Barbarians it encounters though... Chariot?
EDIT: Chariot might also allow us to move the Settler to the spot faster, since both the Chariot and the Settler have a 2 movement speed. Biggest issue is Chariot's inability to get defensive bonuses.... so we can't just try to hunker down in the forests with a chariot and expect to have the advantage.
EDIT: Chariot might also allow us to move the Settler to the spot faster, since both the Chariot and the Settler have a 2 movement speed. Biggest issue is Chariot's inability to get defensive bonuses.... so we can't just try to hunker down in the forests with a chariot and expect to have the advantage.
730195
Warlord
Which can also mean that the French will be willing and able to attack us sooner, right?
Willing, but not able if we have good enough defenders. Plus if they don't have copper in "their" land we'll be in a position to
.I don't know if we'll actually block them in with that city. I think they'd just found a city to the south of it, and possibly disrupt our gold cow location. Also they have the thin strip of land on the west side of the city to walk past.
I'd be more inclined to say the French would surround this city, I'd prefer the cow gold spot first
NKVD
Cossack
no lets hope they will settle there. than if we culture bomb them (or even not with our capital that close) the city will flip to us...
It won't block them, but it will deny them copper if they don't already have it south of the isthmus. Obviously we won't know if it has any effect on their metals supply in general, not being able to see iron ourselves.
They won't surround that location if we get 2 settlers there before they do.
They won't surround that location if we get 2 settlers there before they do.
Falcon02
General
If nothing else it'll prevent someone else from claiming our best chance right now at Copper/Iron.
ordinaryguy
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Fellow Yasutanians, I would like to submit a city site called Coppertown for your consideration.
It is a good site but it will drain our finances.
But hey, it steals copper anyway from Nappy, so by all means do it!
We can deal with finances later. Plus, we already have a commerce city which would offset the cost of this third city.
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It has too much jungle, but it's the only copper I can see. It's a very good site, but it's a little far and we'd need IW for it to go to full strength.
I can try two other sites alternativelly:
I do not advocate any of these right now, as I neither looked at the save nor calculated enough. The proposed site is very good, but will take a while to mature. The others are more easily maturable (is that a word?), but will not get the full potential. Tough choice...
I can try two other sites alternativelly:
- SW-W from the proposed site. It's coastal, with cows. But it takes a desert with it and misses the silk by 1 tile.
- 2S from the proposed site. Useless without a border pop, has a desert, loses the fresh water, but it's closer and will grab Copper + rice.
I do not advocate any of these right now, as I neither looked at the save nor calculated enough. The proposed site is very good, but will take a while to mature. The others are more easily maturable (is that a word?), but will not get the full potential. Tough choice...
Hyronymus
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Looking a little ahead I think the suggested town is perfect. Look at the space between the suggested town anfour capital and then imagine a city being founded on top of the gold mountain 6N of our capital. A city there will easily fill up the space between our capital, Falcon's Haven and the proposed "coppertown".
This is a tough call. Coppertown gives us a necessary strategic resource, but it's going to be out there on an island. It'll take time to build roads to it and we'll need a good-sized garrison so we don't tempt the AI to pick it off.
At the moment I'd prefer to make the Gold/Cow location our third city, with Coppertown as our fourth. I realize if we do this the AI will probably grab that spot. If we don't discover Iron in our current borders we'll be in a tight spot: wrestling Coppertown away from the AI will require cats. And we might be making war earlier than we'd like.
Ugh. Both choices have problems. I need to think about this some more . . .
At the moment I'd prefer to make the Gold/Cow location our third city, with Coppertown as our fourth. I realize if we do this the AI will probably grab that spot. If we don't discover Iron in our current borders we'll be in a tight spot: wrestling Coppertown away from the AI will require cats. And we might be making war earlier than we'd like.
Ugh. Both choices have problems. I need to think about this some more . . .
730195
Warlord
If the French found a city there (they may be already heading that way), we might plan on using our Keshiks to pillage the copper mine. If we pillage soon enough, the city will still be defended by archers which could be defeated by Keshiks if we are willing to use enough.
NKVD
Cossack
we should build a settler right away...is a city planning to do so?
A poll sounds good, which ones to include? The 2nd gold site vs the copper site? Let's make sure we don't leave off any other sites that have support from someone. I'd also like to suggest we poll the general location (gold vs copper) and not specific tiles. The specific tile is something we can refine later if necessary.
We should also be deciding how many cities we want at each phase of development. That belongs somewhere else, perhaps an economy thread.
We should also be deciding how many cities we want at each phase of development. That belongs somewhere else, perhaps an economy thread.
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Though the Turnchat is underway, we need to have a solid plan underway since a settler is in the queue. With multiple Settlement Plans, we ultamately need to agree with a single Settlement Plan that everyone agrees to.
It also saves the DP some headache on where to settle or send an warrior escort IMO.
It also saves the DP some headache on where to settle or send an warrior escort IMO.
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