SGOTM 08 - Geezers

[AgedOne]

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Religious is a bit easy. Honest. Let's go for it. What do you all say. Bit of a practice? We can share tips here and try for Geezers 1 2 and 3, which will be tough given that Sun Tzu Thing and other good players will go for it ...

Map set up. Well, the thing is that I have recently been playing hemisphere maps because I need that for Immortal EQM. Did Liz on Diplo - I can report that, on low sea level it's possible to get a map with contact with the other continents. Which is handy

I'm on the trail. . . . but in my first attempt the prey has been accelerating away from me.

Other landmass was not reachable, which meant it was going to be a long game delivering missionaries by caravel.
Finally got them all there (I won't mention the year. I can feel your laughter bouncing off my back as I fight back bitter tears)
But then I ran into the familiar problem of getting all the right people to vote for me.
Hattie had decided to spread X-ity to all her cities, but hadn't adopted X as her rel (or it would have been game over as her huge number of votes would have made her AP resident). Needed to get her to vote for me, but I ran out of gifts to give her, civics to adopt, and she was still only +6.
I had some good friends who voted for me every time, but they only had a small number of votes.
I have stopped for now to lick my wounds and think about it.

I may try again, rather than continue. It would have been an embarassingly late finish. But I suppose any finish is good.

 

[The-Hawk]

Erik, I started to post a reply here, but decided to move it to the gauntlet thread. I think gauntlets benefit from broad discussion, maybe some other folks will add to it. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear many people are interested in this particular gauntlet.

 

[Misotu]

I'm on the trail. . . . but in my first attempt the prey has been accelerating away from me....
I may try again, rather than continue. It would have been an embarassingly late finish. But I suppose any finish is good.

Yes, any finish is good. It's an Emperor gauntlet, after all. ParadigmShifter is reporting a win in 16xx ... he's not proud of it, but there you go. And I'm blushing over 1000AD

Actually, I just played another, mucked up and finished later than 1000AD. So I've submitted the original effort (hope I've got the settings right ) as a marker.

Which opponents have you picked? And why is Hattie only at +6?

 

[AgedOne]

Yes, any finish is good. It's an Emperor gauntlet, after all. ParadigmShifter is reporting a win in 16xx ... he's not proud of it, but there you go. And I'm blushing over 1000AD

Actually, I just played another, mucked up and finished later than 1000AD. So I've submitted the original effort (hope I've got the settings right ) as a marker.

Which opponents have you picked? And why is Hattie only at +6?

Hmm. I really am a beginner at this. I've played a couple more attempts later on yesterday, and abandoned them both.

For the game in question, I had Hattie, Ram, Gandhi, Asoka, Huayna, Bismarck, Lincoln and Joao - though by the later stages Joao had liberated an off-shore colony as Boudica.

Ram, Huayna and Joao were my closest buddies by the end at +12, +11 and +9.

Hattie, as I said, was +6 :
+1 Years of peace
+2 Open Borders
+3 Like your Civics
Any other bonuses for trade that I'd had earlier had eroded back to 0 by now. She was run-away tech leader, so I lost the ability to trade any to her. She also turned up her nose at any resources I offered.

Hattie had been a life-long Confucian, despite the large spread of other religions in her cities. Sadly, Conficianism had never reached me and I don't know of any way to encourage it towards me.



Talking of the other attempts, I haven't yet found a map where I can reach all civs via galleys - and I do choose low sea-level.

The last one I tried was a crazy ride. Found I was alone with Hattie on a hu-u-ge continent. So I spread out. 3 more civs were crowded on a large off-shore island. The rest of the world were on another big continent.
But this one erupted into numerous inter-faction wars so left my head spinning as to how to get votes without alienating half the planet

 

[Misotu]

I've never had a colony liberated in one of my games. Does turning off vassals stop that?

 

[AgedOne]

I've never had a colony liberated in one of my games. Does turning off vassals stop that?

I know it was something introduced with BTS, but I'm not certain if it is tied up with vassals. It doesn't happen often. Only if a civ has an off-shore 'colony', and it decides to grant it independence. You can do it yourself, of course, if you feel it is dragging your empire down, or something. I can't honestly think of a situation where I would ever use it myself.

I did have vassals still turned on in my games, but I'm beginning to wonder if turning it off might simplify a few situations.

By the way . . . I have recorded a win in the G-major 43!
Not a good win. Not even an average win. But a win nonetheless.
It pleased our resident scouser, ParadigmShifter. My finish date was much worse than his .
Now to work on improving that...

 

[markh]

But as a team, the chances are much improved. What say you, fellow Geezers?

I am still on gmajor 42. Quite time consuming. Once I am finished that one I might try this. Never played for a religious victory, though.

 

[erikthecelt]

I am still on gmajor 42. Quite time consuming. Once I am finished that one I might try this. Never played for a religious victory, though.

Likewise, I'm trying to push The-Hawk on this one. Maybe after the 25th.

 

[markh]

Ha, I will not even come close to Hawk's date. I approached it like a normal game. Took the first map I got and went on with it. I will finish much later if I manage to get it done before the due date.

 

[Misotu]

@AgedOne: Definitely vassals off. I've just posted to that effect on the Gauntlet thread.

 

[AgedOne]

@AgedOne: Definitely vassals off. I've just posted to that effect on the Gauntlet thread.

Cheers, chook! I've done this in my latest attempt - but am suffering from not finding enough time to play this week .
I, too, am starting to post more comments over in the appropriate thread rather than here. (Seems like a pleasant bunch over there. Haven't been flamed once yet )

 

[Misotu]

Yes. But we don't have to share *everything* with them, do we? This is the Geezers' Gauntlet, after all

 

[erikthecelt]

Yes. But we don't have to share *everything* with them, do we? This is the Geezers' Gauntlet, after all

Nope, the Geezers gauntlet is the other one , much less competition.

 

[Harbourboy]

What news on the succession game? I can't believe people can still be finishing it.

 

[Sam_Yeager]

What news on the succession game? I can't believe people can still be finishing it.

Some of the other teams are quite methodical. Given that a number of teams will finish at a substantially earlier date than us it's difficult to argue that they're wrong. Here's the latest standings to the best of my knowledge:

Team                    Turn    Year       Won. Pts  Ratio
Chokonuts               300     1860AD     205/310   0.6833333333333333
CRC (F)                 229     1595AD     290/310   1.266375545851528
Fifth Element (F)       265     1775AD     285/310   1.075471698113208
Gypsy Kings             173     1130AD     75/310    0.43352601156069364161849710982659
Geezers (F)             366     1946AD     305/310   0.83333333333333333333333333333333
Misfits                 254     1720AD     150/310   0.5905511811023622
Murky Waters            211     1505AD     205/310   0.971563981042654
One Short Straw (F)     256     1730AD     305/310   1.19140625
Smurkz                  222     1560AD     80/310    0.3603603603603604
The Real Ms. Beyond (R) 100     375Bc      25/310    0.080645161290322580645161290322581
Trash Team              296     1852AD     165/310   0.5574324324324324
Unusual Suspects        203     1430AD     80/310    0.39408866995073891625615763546798
Wonder Bumpkins         277     1863AD     50/310    0.18050541516245487364620938628159
Xteam (F)               214     1520AD     270/310   1.261682242990654205607476635514

Murky are expecting to finish within the next 9 turns.

 

[Misotu]

I just checked back in because I was sure it would have finished by now ... but ...

No Result !!!

Shurely shome penalty for the late finishers ... ?

<Apologies for the British comedy ref there ... >

 

[erikthecelt]

I just checked back in because I was sure it would have finished by now ... but ...

No Result !!!

Shurely shome penalty for the late finishers ... ?

<Apologies for the British comedy ref there ... >

Murky is done so the first three finishers are in the barn: Murky, CRC and XTeam. We may beat at least one team this time.

By the way, watch out for LTC, he found your comment on their behaviour. Ha and Jesusin will be looking for you

 

[erikthecelt]

@Sam - time to start updating your stats Sam - Chokonuts finished with .826 so we've edged at least one team.

 

[Sam_Yeager]

@Sam - time to start updating your stats Sam - Chokonuts finished with .826 so we've edged at least one team.

Here's the current status as I see it.

Team                    Turn    Year       Won. Pts  Ratio
Chokonuts (F)           345     1924AD     285/310   0.8260869565217391
CRC (F)                 229     1595AD     290/310   1.266375545851528
Fifth Element (F)       265     1775AD     285/310   1.075471698113208
Gypsy Kings             238     1640AD     160/310   0.6722689075630252
Geezers (F)             366     1946AD     305/310   0.83333333333333333333333333333333
Misfits (F)             273     1806AD     295/310   1.080586080586081
Murky Waters (F)        219     1545AD     300/310   1.36986301369863
One Short Straw (F)     256     1730AD     305/310   1.19140625
Smurkz                  250     1700AD     100/310   0.4
The Real Ms. Beyond (R) 100     375BC       25/310   0.080645161290322580645161290322581
Trash Team              335     1915AD     165/310   0.4925373134328358
Unusual Suspects        250     1700AD     165/310   0.66
Wonder Bumpkins         337     1917AD     120/310   0.3560830860534125
Xteam (F)               214     1520AD     270/310   1.261682242990654205607476635514

It's possible that Wonder Bumpkins may end up with the spoon but I'm not making any predictions.

 

[erikthecelt]

I thought the spoons go to the team that finished with the lowest score - that would look like XTeam. Bronze and Spoons.

It looks like we should beat Bumpkins and Trash - so that puts us in the top ten