SGOTM 11 - Godzilla is a monster

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Yeah, and add another pro-republic argument in our bag of ideas

Another thing that might have been good is finding a way around the locked alliances and putting the 2 factions at war against each other. But that start was horrid, I don't think I'll feel too eager to try it again on my own.

 

[ThERat]

I will try and get the fractions against each other before we start with Korea as we can give Arabs mil trad as a bait...hope tomorrow the connection is better...this way working on the internet is terrible

 

[ThERat]

Pre-Turn
Korea has tons of money (15k) and we need that...
I have an idea...get Arabia inot the war as well and we can keep the rest off our back
slow science for a turn to get an embassy there

1.910AD
move troops towards front, establish embassy with Arabs

2.920AD
4 more turns on the peace

IT to make things even better Seoul finishes Adam Smith and joins in the war

3. 930AD
get Arabia into the war, we raze Pyongyang and make 2k
found a city on the spot

IT a whole world war breaks out with many people involved

4.940AD
sign in Ottoman and English to be safe...while checking the diplo screen, game crashes...reload autosave

5.950AD
moving units and killing random units

IT Russia invades our territory, a real worry

6.960AD
Wonsan is Ottoman's already, his sipahi are killers
move units within range of Koreas capital, we need to snatch it from Ottoman

7.970AD
raze another Indian city, they are down to 3 cities

8.980AD
called it a night, so load from here...

there are now 4 sipahi next to Seoul, but I rather they weaken the defense on the IT
take out some Japanese units and Russians, leader fishing no success so far

9.990AD
far too many rifles in Seoul, Ottoman took out 1 or 2
finally get a MGL, a Cav army to take Seoul

4 Japanese maces seem to be too much for our cav as we can't detroy them and redline all 3 cavs, we even lose one of them...what nonsense is this?

IT Ottoman attack Seoul with vigor but take out only 2 rifles and there are around 4 more
Russians suicide themselves against us

10.1000AD
magnetism is due next turn
Egypt is moving units against the south, we shoudl use the chance to inflict more damage there

we do have units there but might not be enough
we do have 2 armies at Seoul, but we need to wait for Ottoman to take out more enemies, I suspect another 4-5 units inside or more and we must make sure we get that city

gather some more troops to take out Delhi also...and replace by new towns, we have plenty of cash to rush stuff

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Looks like a tough nut to crack. Will hold the offense until we have our 12 power army on the field.

Should we take a wild gambit on finishing it off with cavalries, sell libraries, stop research and just short-rush the heck out of everything we need? Or maybe just get nationalism for the war-time boni. Our rep is trashed anyways, so I'd just go ahead and rop-rape the ottoman, literally.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Alright playing. Let the turks burn their GA on Seoul, hold off Russia, capitalize on Japan.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Pre/IBT: some micro for 8-10-12 spt towns, worker joining orders and unleashing a few more dogs to get india.

Korea and Turky go at it in the fields.
Incense/dyes deal with england renewed for iron and a lump of gold.
Germany declares on Eugupten.

T1
Japan lets a few samurais out, scattered and at random, fortunately.
Trade ToG from Russia for Mag, we are IA-borne, research set on Steam Power
Delhi Captured.

IT3
Lose 2 cavs and a settler against a samurai who was hiding in india

IT4
World peace declared then an all-out european war sparks out. France declares on us
Take out 3 rifles in Seoul, then call the dogs off until artillery gets on the spot.
Japs send some sammies in the fog, will intercept next turn.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

T6
Start sending workers back home for rails
Sign peace with the asians, now that we no longer have support, for fear they would ally against us - as usual.

IBT8
England declares on everyone around it and we lose 2 luxes in the process. Major riots.

T9
Buy luxes from the vikings for Spices, Gems, Salt, WM and 165g

T10
Steam power next turn. We have 3 settlers on the frontline, I'm for "forcing" 2 around the japanese fur town to grab some ourselves. We could also spend a settler (or a worker colony for that matter) claiming the gems near Delhi. This would allow to trade one more, and we could use the gold.

Scandinavia are rich right now, and the europeans are at war ... in general. This looks like a very nice occasion to ally the asian faction against, say, france, and the rest against, for example, america. America/England and Scandinavia/France/Germany are 2 locked alliances, and so are our 2, so there could be some nasty action right there.

The save is on the server.

 

[ThERat]

guess it's back to me though it would be nice if soul_warrior would play some as well...but we got to finish this fast...

 

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Pre-Turn
MM a bit, steam in 1 at 0% science, swap a build to a galleon, we might as well send some unit over

IT well, we do get the IW message after steam is in...

1.1100AD
might as well acquire medicine from Japan for it
research is set to electricity, nobody has it yet

2.1120AD
land 4 troops at Dijon

IT Germans and Vikings declare war on us as well...

3. 1130AD
defeat 2 rifles and actually take Dijon...almost too easy

4.1140AD
defeat a French cav on our home soil and we get another army..this war is really worth it
use it for a Cav army, we can't have enough of them, fill it with 3 units only though, we might want to send it over to

France
defeat 2 more German units..no MGL

5.1150AD
I can't complain here, while defeating 2 Germans at Dijon, get yet another MGL
since we just unloaded 4 Cavs, will fill it into army and head for France

IT Germans and French land more units in our land and near Dijon

6.1160AD
clear the landing in the east near Shanghai with army and Cavs
load 3 cav army onto new galleon

clear landing next to Dijon with army and Cav, load army as well

IT French and Germans land more units and Arabs get dragged into the war..this is potentially dangerous

7.1170AD
we can sign peace with France the moment we want it, but I'd rather raze some cites to get more out of the deal
defeat 3 units at Dijon, land one army at Besancon
defeat 3 units near Shanghai, enemy cleared, but I don't have any idea about the Arab incursion which would follow

build embassy with Korea and ask them to join against Arabs for iron and 2 luxes...

IT peace signed a lot but lucky Korea's allies sign in against Arabs
they attack with 2 cavs at Swazi but both retreat
Anjar is now American

8.1180AD
we must not attack Arab territory or we are in big trouble
defeat both Arab Cavs
defeat a rifle in Besancon, army down to 8hp...cover with 2nd army

IT scary as a lot of Egypt Cavs and Ottoman sipahis come running in our land, but they fight somebody else (america)
France begs for peace...we want more first I think

9.1190AD
our railnet makes good progress as we connect the capital with the east

IT not a good turn as Germans sink a loaded galleon with 3 cav + settler...
more landings
good news is that England joins war against Egypt/Ottoman

10.1200AD
well, I can't complain too much as we gain another MGL killing the French cavs that landed way southeast
build another army because we have more elite fights

we do have 2 settlers which are parked near our capital (we have 2 more elsewhere)

defeat 3 units and raze Besancon...hope that hurts France, though they still don't want to give up anything
we could send over more settlers with frigate convoys and settle there
we can also send the other army we have over

we get electricity in around 7 turns, nobody has it yet
do we want to try to get ToE?

start in France

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

ToE would be great, it would finally give us tech parity hopefully. Hopefully the Univ Suffrage cascades are over before the AI's get the tech. Not sure we can spare that many cavs though. We'll also need to start to brush-up on our artillery warfare if this goes on to infantries.

Good work at Besancon, we have a foothold, this is important. It's all irrigated+roaded stuff too, which is great for prospective science farming.

Nice job packing our continent against one another, though leaving many cities unprotected in the mid lands we own could quickly result in losing cities left and right when they decide those are tastiest.

 

[ThERat]

I tried to protect those exposed cities already..now with rails it will be much easier to stack our units wherever we need them. We should be pretty safe.

I hope we can get electricity as monopoly then go for sci methods and bag that wonder...this should give us room for trading.

They all fight wars which bogs them down..and once they get facism, they will change to that useless government I hope...

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Or better, 8-10 cities communisms

I'll look at the shield and beaker numbers and start the best prebuild I can for ToE.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

T2: start building a navy, drop by drop. I'll try going for a few privateers, there's boats belonging to people we're not at war with, out there, and all boats are good privateer food.

T3: Reinforce the arab border, they send out a few cavs here and there.

T4: Lose a cavalry but gain an army defending Dijon from german and french knights and cavalries. Raze the next french town out there. I start having bad feelings about the outcome of the lives of the 6-7 stray jap and indian units going NW towards Egypt and Turky

T5: Electricity has been learned. No monopoly for us, but on the bright side it will cost us nearly 600 less beakers.

T6: Electricity was most likely discovered by Scandinavia, which now has 17 000 gold. Peace for the factions of our continent, now it's all us vs arabia.

T7: One less city on the French coast

T8: ...and one further.

T9: India declares on us.

T10: Spot a large number of sipahis coming south down the korean border. I smell something really foul cooking, and it doesn't even relate to your ex mother in law's chicken stu.

We have new garrison for Dijon, keep it well guarded. An army can be lifted up to the continent for some triple teaming action in France. Another is ready to be sent west; the naval action has been scarce lately, so while I would not risk sending it straight west, I definitely would send it SW to Dijon for a relay with the "usual" traffic line.

The micro for most core cities is sloppy, but with rails in progress, there isn't wonders to be done.

The Save

 

[ThERat]

did you trade electricity when we got it? What about sci methods? Is it known? Maybe we still have a chance to get ToE.

I would love to sign peace with Arabia now and attack the Indian fraction and take them out completely. Should be possible. At the same time, keep on pounding France.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

No one knows sci method, and I did not sell it around indeed. The civs we can sell it to are all broke and have no rep (no one has on the map) so we still have a world of trades ahead of us. No new techs have been learned or traded among what we know of since we got electricity. I doubt we can get more than 2 techs with it, but if we grab industrialization and nationalism it would be great. We don't have that many cities to spare for a factory now anyways, with a navy to build and a palace going on, but we can always try.
You're right though, I should have acted on it; we fell lucky.

Arabia is now willing to negociate and I turned the warning off in CA2 last time I played AW, I'm regretting it now

The pounding on France is self-sufficient and well fed. With 3-4 more cavs to fill full 4-men armies, it will take big badluck to lose an army to a rifle.

 

[ThERat]

Pre-Turn
we can get peace with Arabia for exchange of steam and sanitation
given that I would like to take out Japan and India, we need to free our hands and maybe sign in Arabia

decide that we go for peace with Arabia and then after attacking India etc signing in others
get industry from Japan for electricity
get corporation from Korea for electricity

now if Ottoman really sneaks attack against us, making peace with Arabia a turn later should clear thing up...

ask Japan to leave, they declare war

attack Calcutta, Korea declares as well...take city
clear a Japanese Lb and get another MGL

attack Bangalore, take city and India is gone

attack and take Izumo after defeating 4 units inside

IT what an interturn, Japan takes out a wounded cav arnmy and Ottoman decalre war almost taking out a city

1.1280AD
make peace with Arabia for exchange of sanitation versus steam
sign them in against Korea

send 2 more Cavs to France to get our armies to 4 units
clear some Japanese units on the front and gain a MGL to make up for the loss

IT I am not blesses with luck this turnset as German rifles actually take out a yellow army in Dijon

2.1285AD
raze Edo, decide not to keep too many of their cities to be able to attack faster
fill armies and raze Poitiers

3. 1290AD
Vikings are racing ahead in tech as they have rep parts now...we should go after them
take Osaka almost losing another army

while taking out some units get another leader at Dijon

IT Dijon is taken by Viking zerks, lucky the army is outside

4.1295AD
defeat 4 units and take back Dijon for 860gold, however, too many units around and we can't deal with vikings for now,

time for peace with those
take out a last French city and sign peace getting 15gpt
try and get 2 settler over in time to grab some land

raze Tokyo and Japan is down to 4 cities

5.1300AD
Japanese seem to have some financial problems as a landed samurai evaporates

IT we get sci methods and it's a monopoly
ToE in 7 but as nobody has US yet, abstain from trading for now

6.1305AD
set research to nationalism in 6, just in time for ToE
take Kagoshima way south
set up for the final push next turn

IT great news as Philadelphia finishes US...we are safe for ToE

7.1310AD
take Satsuma, defeat 4 units in Kyoto, still more left
take out 4 units and Nara is ours...will have to wait 1 turn

8.1315AD
take out 2 more units and Kyoto is ours, Japan gone
send our settlers south to claim land

now we need to get Seoul if possible

since we will get ToE as no prebuild is possible, trade sci methods
get steel +700 gold from Vikings
refining from France for steel and sci methods
rep parts from Egypt for steel and sci methods
finally acquire nationalism and some junk from Germany
get esionage from ottoman for sci methods..some cash as well

switch off research as we will get ToE in 5 turns
employ taxmen and we make 331gpt for now

9.1320AD
found a few new citites and slowly march on to Seoul

10.1325AD
Vikings have combustion now, they are on 4 turn research, I am sure
we need to fight them sooner or later
founded a few more cities

we will get ToE in 3 and should be able to take out Seoul with more armies and atrillery support soon

 

[ThERat]

our armies at Korea, note that the mace army has artillery hidden below

the wolrd map shows us owning the whole south now...

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Pretty quiet turn, overall:

- We get ToE, it brings us Atom Theory and Electro
- Egypt declares
- Korea extincts
- Arabia signs in a MA against us, have to upgrade a bunch of catapults and trebs into artilleries

- Scandinavia researches combustion the turn we need it
- We are almost at Mass production
- Scandinavia has Flight

I've been producing infantries wherever I could, a few factories and preparing the way for tanks. We still need several static defenders. Once we actually have tanks, I say we start moving in onto our own neighbors. Otherwise we can always go for Scandinavia before anyone else gets Flight. They are crazily rich. We'll need to drop a huge load of artilleries and infantries, let them waste troops on them.

Basically, war on our continent would be much shorter to prepare, but it would be more dangerous. I guess we could try to boot germany off our island, have them declare on us this way, and let ottomans waste a few sipahis in boat drops overboard.

The Save

 

[ThERat]

Pre-Turn
it was a slight understatement to say nothing happened
we got Sun Tzu and Smiths from Korea, not bad really

MM for science farms, governors not doing good a job
mass production down to 2

1.1380AD
zzz

2.1385AD
mass production in, go for tanks
defeat a few intruders trying to leaderfish, doesn't succeed

3.1390AD
zzz

4.1395AD
leaderfishing succeeds, army for infantry for the invasion of Scandinavia

5.1400AD
Scandinavia and Ottomans have tech parity with us..and ttomans a lot of cash too now
I think we must attack them now to prevent falling further behind

IT Egypt wants peace, this is our chance to raze some cities and go for peace next turn

6.1405AD
raze Anjar and of course, Russians and Ottomans declare war on us
lose 3 cavs but take Wonsan from Ottoman
decide to fill the new army with cavs and attack Baghdad
lose 2 cavs but manage to take it as well

we have more city in sight for us to take...
sign peace with Egypt, abandon Wonsan and found anotehr city nearby with less flip risk
exchange a lux for oil with America, we might need them to help us against Vikings etc.

IT suddenly the Vikings sneak attack us and take the town we have in France
and because our army is hanging around there, France and Germany join in the fun

7.1410AD
I recapture the city for 1290gold (we don't mind that)
but since we won't be able to keep that city, abandon it
abandon squeeze as well, no point to keep it

defeat 4 German units at Dijon and almost lose the army
with flight around, we got to be very careful here

convince America to join the war for electronics
do the same with Egypt, we don't need backstabbers and Vikings have plenty of money to do that

abaondon baghdad and replace city with a flip free place

IT waiting for the WW to break out
at least the 2 fractions overseas are fighting now

8.1415AD
zzz

IT France decalres on Egypt, good

9.1420AD
decrease science to 30%

IT Germans land 3 units next to Dijon and France lands 4 units on our continent
we finally get tanks

10.1425AD
Ottomans have all the money in the world since they have tanks as well
finnaly manage to raze Strassbourgh
we have some navy in Rubble pot, we can start sending units overseas from there

flight is due in 8, America has it, but it's insanely expensive
maybe we can try and steal while switching off research

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I'm sincerely sorry, but I'm not going to make it for the Feb 1st deadline. I'm caught up in school work and if I played it would be even sloppier than what I've done so far - which wasn't shiny I assure you.

Back in september I thought I could handle 1 SG, but I changed university, jumped a level into grad school and found out it was that much more difficult. I've had a week of break for christmas and made the most of it for this game, but it's long gone. I'm afraid the week and a half left will not be better for me than the last month at all. 2 hours of good brain time doesn't appear much in my free schedule.

I'm sorry it comes to this, but my brain time is on a rough schedule. A shame about being 2 playing it for 2000 years as well. I guess I was a bit hard on Rick at the beginning, TLM had his family and SW ... who knows

Been nice playing with you again, I'm optimistic it will re-happen, sometimes