SGOTM 14 - Xteam

leif erikson · Dec 3, 2011

Playing now, will look at it.

If we intend to raise cities and replace them in order for them not to be in anarchy so long, that will most likely take priority as we have no Settlers at present.

Also, to attack the core in 5 places at once will require a lot of units, especially if in 5 turns. :eek:

More production, and whipping some.

So much to do, so little time...

leif erikson · Dec 3, 2011

Got through 5 turns so far.

Montie has Artillery and Anti-Tank units now, but we have several of his cities. The build-up continues along our borders for an attack on the center. Not sure we're ready as I'm frightened by the thought, but ... :crazyeye:

With Montie, want to head for his capital next turn, a three turn journey. Plan to attack his northwestern most city from India once units are healed.

Save attached for comments.

leif erikson · Dec 4, 2011

Sorry, have come down with the darned stomach flu or something. :vomit:

Too weak to play this evening. :sad:

Have uploaded the save to central.

If no one picks it up, I'll give it a shot tomorrow.

The submission log (part one):

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Submission Log (part 2):

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Submission Log (part 3):

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Submission Log (part 4):

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The-Hawk · Dec 5, 2011

Sorry to hear you are not feeling well. However, you've made great progress

. We are not far from finishing.

Two suggestions...

- We seem to have population well in hand. Might not hurt to do some light unit whipping to get our attack on Shaka set up sooner.

- If we turn up research, we can finish Corp and get an extra trade route in each city. Of course, at this point, teching will not gain much for us.

I assume CP will be back in the saddle tomorrow. By tomorrow night, if he has not checked in (and if you are not feeling well enough to play), I might be able to pick it up.

Cactus Pete · Dec 5, 2011

Just mounted and read thread. Great trip, caught 'gator' trout and feeling great, so really a bummer teammates and family are suffering the crud.

Will look at save shortly. Any estimates made on how much more land we will need? When is the deadline for submission?

Mad Professor · Dec 5, 2011

Get well quick leif.

I am not able to play the next couple of days but might be able to play some turns later in the week if necessary. Not sure if I'll be needed though since CP is back and Hawk is also able to play later in the week. Then there's Htadus lurking around as well - we'll get it done!

Cactus Pete · Dec 5, 2011

Glanced at save . . . Why researching Corp (will obsolete GLH) instead of Physics or Artillery?

Hawk, what does Monte usually have in his cities?

leif erikson · Dec 5, 2011

Cactus Pete said:
Just mounted and read thread. Great trip, caught 'gator' trout and feeling great, so really a bummer teammates and family are suffering the crud.

Glad to hear you had a good time and got the big one... :mischief:

Feeling a bit better now. :health:

Cactus Pete said:
Will look at save shortly. Any estimates made on how much more land we will need? When is the deadline for submission?

Saturday, 10 December.

edit - Without counting tiles, the team of Shaka and Mansa have 32% of the land area. We currently have 46.71% and many of Gandhi's old cities have not expanded.
100 - 32 = 68, that is exactly what we need. How big a risk is it to not attack Shaka? :hmm:

Cactus Pete said:
Glanced at save . . . Why researching Corp (will obsolete GLH) instead of Physics or Artillery?

Hawk, what does Monte usually have in his cities?

Montie has had a combination of Rifles, Artillery, Cavs and a few Longbows in his cities. I think it has been between 5 to 8 units in general. He has been very aggressive with his naval units and less so on land. His primary counterattacks have been with Artillery, which has been somewhat helpful when he does this against cities as we can heal quickly.

A quick rundown, there is an army healing in the far southwestern Indian city (Ahmedabad). We have a large stack of Galleons in Delhi but they lost all there escorting Frigates. There is a fleet in Calcutta with Frigate support, some of which is taking units to Xochialco. The Aztec Frigate is blocking the path into Ahmedabad but I think we could sail the galleon to the Crab tile, losing a Galleon and then move around the Frigate into Ahmedabad if we chose to do so?

Had planed to move an army out of Tlateloco headed for Tenochtitlan through the forests and to the hill.

Questions, please ask.

I agree with not researching to Corporation as it obsoletes the Great Lighthouse.

Mad Professor said:
Get well quick leif.

Thanks MP.

Hope Htadus' family has recovered as well. :please:

Htadus · Dec 5, 2011

Glad you are feeling better lief. My kids had two bad nights and now acting as if nothing happened. I am jealous. I can not believe it is almost D day.

I think we need to plan to place new cities in the center and let the expansion bring us over the domi limit.

BTW CP, great domi time on that Rome game. Care to share the secrets

.

Cactus Pete · Dec 5, 2011

leif erikson said:
Glad to hear you had a good time and got the big one... Got several, but suffering just a bit today for my pleasure -- my hands look like someone has raked them over a cheese grader from handling/filleting.

Feeling a bit better now. Excellent.

edit - Without counting tiles, the team of Shaka and Mansa have 32% of the land area. We currently have 46.71% and many of Gandhi's old cities have not expanded.
100 - 32 = 68, that is exactly what we need. How big a risk is it to not attack Shaka? Don't think it will be a big risk to attack. Have you any idea where South's galleons, if any, are?

Montie has had a combination of Rifles, Artillery, Cavs and a few Longbows in his cities. I think it has been between 5 to 8 units in general. He has been very aggressive with his naval units and less so on land. His primary counterattacks have been with Artillery, which has been somewhat helpful when he does this against cities as we can heal quickly. Understood, and thanks. Do you suspect any frigates hidden in the fog in or near his NW cities? Would prefer to move units there by galleon.

A quick rundown, there is an army healing in the far southwestern Indian city (Ahmedabad). We have a large stack of Galleons in Delhi but they lost all there escorting Frigates. There is a fleet in Calcutta with Frigate support, some of which is taking units to Xochialco. Why not take to Malinalco? The Aztec Frigate is blocking the path into Ahmedabad but I think we could sail the galleon to the Crab tile Don't see it???, losing a Galleon and then move around the Frigate into Ahmedabad if we chose to do so? Planning to bring the healthy frigate from Calcutta to provide some porotection for those Delhi galleons.

Had planed to move an army out of Tlateloco headed for Tenochtitlan through the forests and to the hill. Understood. What concern do you have for a counterattack on Tlat?

Questions, please ask.

I agree with not researching to Corporation as it obsoletes the Great Lighthouse.

Will switch, but having looked more at the save, think I would prefer to keep the option to upgrade some muskets to rifles if Shaka gets frisky, rather than go for Physics.
Would you have me post a plan or just go ahead and play when able, in the interest of time?

"BTW CP, great domi time on that Rome game. Care to share the secrets" Just had better RNG luck than has been the norm lately.

"I think we need to plan to place new cities in the center and let the expansion bring us over the domi limit." See no room for cities unless we raze some. Is that what you're advocating?

leif erikson · Dec 5, 2011

Cactus Pete said:
Got several, but suffering just a bit today for my pleasure -- my hands look like someone has raked them over a cheese grader from handling/filleting.

All that good protein will help them heal quickly.

Cactus Pete said:
Don't think it will be a big risk to attack. Have you any idea where South's galleons, if any, are?

I have only seen a single one or so near Raggie's old domain. I believe they exist, but do not know where?

Cactus Pete said:
Do you suspect any frigates hidden in the fog in or near his NW cities? Would prefer to move units there by galleon.

Yes, there may be an injured one or two healing in Malinalco? Can't be sure if they went there or north into the fog? Could run the Cav in Vijayanagara (western most of Gandhi's old cities) to have a look to the SSW. :scan:

Gandhi had quite a stack but they are gone now.

Cactus Pete said:
Why not take to Malinalco?

When I attacked Xochialco, there were four units there, 3 Rifles and a LB. Suspect similar units in Malinalco, plus some naval units? Thought force in Ahmed.... would be sufficient for Malinalco? Was hoping to run a small group of Cavs down towards Tlaxcala from Xoch... :dunno:

Cactus Pete said:
What concern do you have for a counterattack on Tlat?

An Artillery unit attacked there either last turn or the one before. Haven't seen anything else? Kind of hoped he would exhaust some units there giving free passage south?

Cactus Pete said:
Will switch, but having looked more at the save, think I would prefer to keep the option to upgrade some muskets to rifles if Shaka gets frisky, rather than go for Physics.
Would you have me post a plan or just go ahead and play when able, in the interest of time?

Agree with keeping some cash available for upgrades. There are 4 Cuirassier and a couple of Grens (one a CR3) in Ahmed... that could be upgraded.

No need for a plan, it would be too complicated anyway. Have full faith and trust in your abilities. (more than in my own...) :thumbsup:

Cactus Pete said:
"I think we need to plan to place new cities in the center and let the expansion bring us over the domi limit." See no room for cities unless we raze some. Is that what you're advocating?

Yes, I believe this is what Htadus was advocating because of the resistance time. Only problem is getting them expanded culturally without Caste.

btw, should consider changing Portland to build culture to get it to expand, just saw it and missed it earlier.

Mad Professor · Dec 5, 2011

Cactus Pete said:
Would you have me post a plan or just go ahead and play when able, in the interest of time?

I'm happy for you to just go ahead. For generalities, there's not much to discuss anyway and discussing details would take time we don't have and wouldn't finish up with anything very much better than what you could come up with anyway. Just go kick butt! :hammer:

Cactus Pete · Dec 5, 2011

leif erikson said:
I have only seen a single one or so near Raggie's old d All omain. I believe they exist, but do not know where?

Yes, there may be an injured one or two healing in Malinalco? Can't be sure if they went there or north into the fog? Could run the Cav in Vijayanagara (western most of Gandhi's old cities) to have a look to the SSW. Used workers instead and found none there but a caravel and a frigate 2W of Ahmed.

When I attacked Xochialco, there were four units there, 3 Rifles and a LB. Suspect similar units in Malinalco, plus some naval units? Nope, just 3 rifles. Thought force in Ahmed.... would be sufficient for Malinalco? Was hoping to run a small group of Cavs down towards Tlaxcala from Xoch... That is now my plan.

An Artillery unit attacked there either last turn or the one before. Haven't seen anything else? Kind of hoped he would exhaust some units there giving free passage south? Understood.

Agree with keeping some cash available for upgrades. There are 4 Cuirassier and a couple of Grens (one a CR3) in Ahmed... that could be upgraded. Understood.

Only problem is getting them expanded culturally without Caste. btw, should consider changing Portland to build culture to get it to expand, just saw it and missed it earlier.

Been there, done that there and will elsewhere.

Will start some settlers next turn.

Anticipate playing in small increments tonight and tomorrow

leif erikson · Dec 5, 2011

Cactus Pete said:
Anticipate playing in small increments tonight and tomorrow

Sounds good. Good Luck and Happy Hunting. :hammer:

Cactus Pete · Dec 5, 2011

Actually, will whip settlers and a couple spies for a hopefull revolt in a Shaka city.

Mad Professor · Dec 5, 2011

Good luck CP - got get 'em!

Cactus Pete · Dec 6, 2011

Only played one turn but put in considerable time planning. Think the quickest way to victory is to attack the South too. I cannot find any stacks of doom in their territory.

Will probably play again in about 14 hours. Comments welcome.

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