Sharon keeps pressure up on illegal settlers

[GerrardCapashen]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3751490.stm

I think that this is an excellent first step towards getting all of the settlers out of Palestinian land and back into Israel proper.

 

[Mauer]

Sharon is a disgrace to Israelites. He has betrayed them, and deserves the uprising he is going to bring about. That land is no more Palestinian land,than New York is British land.

 

[Yom]

Sharon is a disgrace to Israelites. He has betrayed them, and deserves the uprising he is going to bring about. That land is no more Palestinian land,than New York is British land.

Then it's also no more Israeli land than New York is British. Remember, the state of Israel was only established in 1948, and, before that, there hadn't been an Israeli state for thousands of years. Both sides have a claim.

 

[Mauer]

Then where did the land come from? You and I both know the answer, so yes, it is their land.

 

[amadeus]

If we're going to get technical, the land "belongs" not to Israel, and not to the Palestinians, but to Egypt.

 

[Yom]

Or maybe the Philistines. The Palestinians have lived in the area for too long for you to completely disregard their interests. The land has been continuously called Palestine since Roman/Greek times. Though they speak arabic, it is widely believed that the arab explosion in the middle of the first millennium did not replace the local peoples, but, rather, the locals adopted the language. The Palestinians of today (not including arabs who have moved there recently) may be the direct descendents of the Philistines, who have lived in the area just as long, if not longer, as the Jews.

I'm not saying the whole area should be Palestinian, but it shouldn't be entirely the state of Israel. Interestingly enough, Jordan covers about 75% of the Palestinian homeland.

BTW, Gaza was an ancient Philistine city from the late 2nd millennium B.C., so they have strong claims.

 

[Azadre]

I'll take this a step further, land belongs to none.

 

[downtown]

actually folks, its mine. Im renting it out now

 

[GerrardCapashen]

I'll take this a step further, land belongs to none.

Actually, essentially all of Western law is based on the assumption that all property, including land, can be and is owned by somebody.

As long as the Israelis claim to support a Palestinian state, they must respect the land that would become part of that country as belonging to the Palestinians.

According to the world community, it is no longer acceptable to use war for territorial gain, in a reversal of the typical human behavior for the past ten thousand years.

 

[G-Man]

Actually, essentially all of Western law is based on the assumption that all property, including land, can be and is owned by somebody.

If the reality presents a situation which doesn't exist in law I would say that the problem is with the law, not with reality.

As long as the Israelis claim to support a Palestinian state, they must respect the land that would become part of that country as belonging to the Palestinians.

First, Israel doesn't have to, because it supports a Palestinian state only if it'll fight terrorism, and that isn't happening. And even if Israel did support a Palestinian state at the present moment, its borders are yet to be determined, so no one knows what land will become Palestinian, except for the lands given to the Palestinians in the Oslo agreements.

According to the world community, it is no longer acceptable to use war for territorial gain, in a reversal of the typical human behavior for the past ten thousand years.

I would't use the "world community" as a moral standard. They've done nothing to justify being treated as such.

 

[Yaniv]

If you want to get historical about it, then the jews inhabited Israel long before Islam and Christianity were ever created.
It was taken from them by the Ancient Romans by means of war and afterwards it was conquered by many nations, the most recent being the British, which were preceded by the Turkish Empire.
So historically, the jews were the first to live in the land.