roscoepfox
Chieftain
- Joined
- Jul 10, 2014
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What is the formula for when the AI thinks youre looking for salvage too close to them. In my last game Brasilia landed close to me. They instantly said my scout was looking for salvage in their territory. The thing is the wreckage was probably an equal distance from either of our bases and lets face it
.I was there first.
So really what they were saying is everything here is ours. Its not as if I travelled to a different land mass looking for salvage. Is that just a default for the AI? Because they don't seem to be able to differentiate between "clearly in my territory" and "closer to you than me".
It gets better though. Brasilia had already planted a base on one titanium resource I was gearing to get, forcing me to change production to a new colonist to grab the other one within reach. This of course made them accuse me of grabbing all of the land.
(The way I see it, its never a good idea to agree to the I wont hunt slavage/ build near you requests from the AI.)
Hilariously there was a large portion of land with good resources they could have exploited early in the game, they just never did it. I did, however, but much later in the game when I had established my core cities and secured resources and happiness. They could have easily taken all of that land without any trouble.
This started the game long condemnations and irritating remarks from Brasilia. Even if I did nothing but mind my own business theyd wait until one condemnation had run its course and expired and do it again. They constantly ran units up to the border and back again into their territory (mostly covered by the FoW until later in the game.) and then told me my military was a joke. I didnt respond or anything because I was busy securing the part of the continent I wanted .it had loads of floatstone and oil and I needed to clear out nests of bugs and set up bases. I didnt want a war on the other side of my borders. But I found out that Brasilia was sandwiched between me and ARC and they werent as big or powerful as theyd been fronting. They had four cities and very few troops. They were also fighting ARC and while the ARC AI was unable to take a city they were tearing their forces apart. They asked me to join in the war and I declined. At this time I was FAR ahead of both of them, (they were around Affinity level 8 to 10, I was level 13 and building the Emancipation Gate) and Brasilia decides to call me up again with a You stink message.
Ok, I want to know what makes any AI do this? Other than be successful at colonizing I hadnt done anything to them since the beginning of the game. I had trade convoys going to them. My troops outnumbered them and were more powerful. What formula tells the AI to goad me into a fight they cant possibly win? Especially when theyre already losing another fight?
I took their capitol and another city just for revenge. It took all of maybe five turns. Then for peace I made them give me all of their resources. As soon as the allotted period for peace was up they started bugging me again so I finished them off. Which pissed off everyone but ARC and the Slavic dude. Everyone else condemned me. Even though we were friendly before. I suppose from their point of view it looked like I just attacked Brasilia for nothing, but the Indian lady (cant spell the name) had attacked Brasilia just before I took them out and a few turns later attacked the Slavic guy.
So is the AI telling me its ok when they do it?
So really what they were saying is everything here is ours. Its not as if I travelled to a different land mass looking for salvage. Is that just a default for the AI? Because they don't seem to be able to differentiate between "clearly in my territory" and "closer to you than me".
It gets better though. Brasilia had already planted a base on one titanium resource I was gearing to get, forcing me to change production to a new colonist to grab the other one within reach. This of course made them accuse me of grabbing all of the land.
(The way I see it, its never a good idea to agree to the I wont hunt slavage/ build near you requests from the AI.)
Hilariously there was a large portion of land with good resources they could have exploited early in the game, they just never did it. I did, however, but much later in the game when I had established my core cities and secured resources and happiness. They could have easily taken all of that land without any trouble.
This started the game long condemnations and irritating remarks from Brasilia. Even if I did nothing but mind my own business theyd wait until one condemnation had run its course and expired and do it again. They constantly ran units up to the border and back again into their territory (mostly covered by the FoW until later in the game.) and then told me my military was a joke. I didnt respond or anything because I was busy securing the part of the continent I wanted .it had loads of floatstone and oil and I needed to clear out nests of bugs and set up bases. I didnt want a war on the other side of my borders. But I found out that Brasilia was sandwiched between me and ARC and they werent as big or powerful as theyd been fronting. They had four cities and very few troops. They were also fighting ARC and while the ARC AI was unable to take a city they were tearing their forces apart. They asked me to join in the war and I declined. At this time I was FAR ahead of both of them, (they were around Affinity level 8 to 10, I was level 13 and building the Emancipation Gate) and Brasilia decides to call me up again with a You stink message.
Ok, I want to know what makes any AI do this? Other than be successful at colonizing I hadnt done anything to them since the beginning of the game. I had trade convoys going to them. My troops outnumbered them and were more powerful. What formula tells the AI to goad me into a fight they cant possibly win? Especially when theyre already losing another fight?
I took their capitol and another city just for revenge. It took all of maybe five turns. Then for peace I made them give me all of their resources. As soon as the allotted period for peace was up they started bugging me again so I finished them off. Which pissed off everyone but ARC and the Slavic dude. Everyone else condemned me. Even though we were friendly before. I suppose from their point of view it looked like I just attacked Brasilia for nothing, but the Indian lady (cant spell the name) had attacked Brasilia just before I took them out and a few turns later attacked the Slavic guy.
So is the AI telling me its ok when they do it?