Sweetest deal for me at the end of ancient
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Moff Jerjerrod
Deity
That is a pretty sweet deal.
Ah, lucky. The civs in my game rarely have any gold in their treasury in the ancient age, let alone 55 gold per turn! Seems like you have a pretty nice empire going as well. 
Btw, what level is this on?
Btw, what level is this on?
Gogf
Indescribable
Very nice deal, but that would be harder to get on levels like emperor (this looks like either Chieftain or Warlord).
rcoutme
Emperor
One other thing that you have not mentioned is how many other civs had those techs. Granted, Map Making and Construction are two of the costliest 'required' techs in the AA, but if lots of other civs have them, their value goes way down. Still, I congratulate you on your trade. BTW, Gandhi may have just sold those techs to others, thus giving him the gpt and gp available that he transfered to you.
Trev
Prince
I have found in my games that India is generally very good to deal with, they are usually willing to pay very good money for techs at emperor and demigod levels, it seems to be the nature of the Indian civ to buy their technology and pay good money for it
India is a cash cow primarily because they're commercial (as is Greece, too). It seems the ones with cheap culture improvements fair better, probably because their borders expand quicker, allowing their automated workers to build more roads.
Lennon
Automated Worker
Trev said:
Agreed, Gandhi is always a generous negotiator.
Aggie
Deity
Gogf said:
No way. At chieftain/warlord the AI hasn't got gpt at all. This is at least emperor and probably even higher. I have seen gpt deals from a despot AI before, but this is the best I've seen in a non-sid game. EDIT: What am I saying? India surely is a monarchy at this stage.
morchuflex
Emperor
Anyway, in C3C, the AI very rarely offers gpt deals. If I offer the Republic and they have only 2 gold, they will offer... 2 gold, period. In vanilla they may have offered 70 gpt, but that's over, and for the best because it lead to an exploit (crippling AI economy).
Grille
panel insect
This game is on demi, set to large continental, warm, wet, raging, only 5 AI. I actually wanted 7 rivals, but somehow I messed it up. I didn't check F10 in time and when I noticed this, I just carried on playing - so I stumbled across this deal.
The deal *could* have been even better, but monarchy on top of it would have been too much. I rather took constuction, mm, all their gold and spare gpt and the (not displayed) worker instead of construction (or mm), monarchy and less gpt.
Monarchy is dead end and I had 3 native luxs, that's why I didn't want to use it at that time anyways.
My other contact was Rome (India knew them), neither knew republic. India might have known the other civs, but I guess republic was a world-wide monopoly tech. Though I researched WC and alphabet on my own and then even traded for writing, I surprisingly won the philo gambit (CoL) which most probably featured that monopoly in the end.
A bit later, with additional contacts, republic had not been sold around by India and I could trade it for monarchy (spread) to Rome.
Amazingly, India's (indeed gov=monarchy) total spare gpt was even higher than 55gpt, because they already paid me 5gpt for a peace treaty [at some point, Ghandi sneak attacked... as usual
].
The treaty was put up 2 (IIRC) turns earlier (rep was not due yet) and I noticed their huge spare gpt during those negotiations by testing it. Surely I praid to get to rep first and that India wouldn't give the gpt to someone else meanwhile.
I also have the feeling that some civs, such as India, England and France, often have a lot of gpt to offer. It seems that the commercial traits fits to their 'build'-flags.
The deal *could* have been even better, but monarchy on top of it would have been too much. I rather took constuction, mm, all their gold and spare gpt and the (not displayed) worker instead of construction (or mm), monarchy and less gpt.
Monarchy is dead end and I had 3 native luxs, that's why I didn't want to use it at that time anyways.
My other contact was Rome (India knew them), neither knew republic. India might have known the other civs, but I guess republic was a world-wide monopoly tech. Though I researched WC and alphabet on my own and then even traded for writing, I surprisingly won the philo gambit (CoL) which most probably featured that monopoly in the end.
A bit later, with additional contacts, republic had not been sold around by India and I could trade it for monarchy (spread) to Rome.
Amazingly, India's (indeed gov=monarchy) total spare gpt was even higher than 55gpt, because they already paid me 5gpt for a peace treaty [at some point, Ghandi sneak attacked... as usual
]. The treaty was put up 2 (IIRC) turns earlier (rep was not due yet) and I noticed their huge spare gpt during those negotiations by testing it. Surely I praid to get to rep first and that India wouldn't give the gpt to someone else meanwhile.
I also have the feeling that some civs, such as India, England and France, often have a lot of gpt to offer. It seems that the commercial traits fits to their 'build'-flags.
Lennon
Automated Worker
What really aggravates me is how one AI knows the deal you just made in your turn. Like in this case, where you have The Republic. You then trade it to one AI for huge amounts of money and other techs etc. You then visit AI ruler no 2 and to your great frustration he'll only pay you a fraction of what the other guy just gave you, because he already knows that the other AI now has the tech and will be a much less demanding negotiator. I actually find this so annoying that I 'cheat back' on the AI, by loading to see which composition of deals will be most beneficial. If he knows things he shouldn't know, I see to it that I too know things I normally shouldn't know. If he cheats, I cheat.
morchuflex
Emperor
JST666,
where does the info displayed between the Inca leader's picture and the advisor come from? What do the numbers represent? Is this some mod?
where does the info displayed between the Inca leader's picture and the advisor come from? What do the numbers represent? Is this some mod?
Shabbaman
rebuffing the rebels
Gogf said:
Yeah, Grille the chieftain player
@Morchuflex: that's a multiplayer status bar.
Silver_Wolf
Chieftain
that is because it is a multiplayer game.
It's multiplayer information
SW
It's multiplayer information
SW
