civfan_999
Chieftain
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- Jun 23, 2020
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My partner and I often play civ together on a team vs. a number of AI teams. We have always been annoyed that the victory conditions aren't modified in any way to accommodate a team victory.
The religious and domination victories work well with teams as each member can contribute. On the other hand, the culture and science victory are very much solo victories even in the team setting. This kind of works for the science victory, though it would be nice if they had an idea to make it more of a team victory condition where both team members need to contribute in some way.
For the culture victory in particular, we don’t enjoy playing it as a team as one person needs to be the one getting all the great works, wonders, natural parks, ect. If you share in getting these things, then one partner is just taking away options from the other. The only exception is great people, where you still want to both be accumulating the points, but even then, when one partner gets books or art or music, they just need to immediately transfer them over to the other partner to maximize the victory goals. We have never understood why the team culture victory wouldn’t be the aggregate tourism of a team vs. aggregate accumulated culture of other teams. It would be great if this could be modified to require both team members to work towards the objective, rather than one main player and one support. It would also allow AI teams to compete more effectively, as they won't be sending each other great works and relics to min/max as a team like we do when we play as a team.
Even the diplomatic victory - the number of points the team has is the higher of the points on either team. Points are not attributed to teams. When there are world congress votes to give out two points, we vote together for one of us. All the AIs vote for themselves as they have no concept of working together to play as a team. I think the world congress vote for 2 points in a team game should be for 2 points to go to a TEAM, not an individual. That way, the AIs wouldn't split their votes.
The religious and domination victories work well with teams as each member can contribute. On the other hand, the culture and science victory are very much solo victories even in the team setting. This kind of works for the science victory, though it would be nice if they had an idea to make it more of a team victory condition where both team members need to contribute in some way.
For the culture victory in particular, we don’t enjoy playing it as a team as one person needs to be the one getting all the great works, wonders, natural parks, ect. If you share in getting these things, then one partner is just taking away options from the other. The only exception is great people, where you still want to both be accumulating the points, but even then, when one partner gets books or art or music, they just need to immediately transfer them over to the other partner to maximize the victory goals. We have never understood why the team culture victory wouldn’t be the aggregate tourism of a team vs. aggregate accumulated culture of other teams. It would be great if this could be modified to require both team members to work towards the objective, rather than one main player and one support. It would also allow AI teams to compete more effectively, as they won't be sending each other great works and relics to min/max as a team like we do when we play as a team.
Even the diplomatic victory - the number of points the team has is the higher of the points on either team. Points are not attributed to teams. When there are world congress votes to give out two points, we vote together for one of us. All the AIs vote for themselves as they have no concept of working together to play as a team. I think the world congress vote for 2 points in a team game should be for 2 points to go to a TEAM, not an individual. That way, the AIs wouldn't split their votes.
