Term 3 - Judiciary

[mhcarver]

1.As my esteemed colleague Black Hole has pointed out there is no place in the constitution that mentions special sessions, Even though I think the constitution should be interpteted broadly I don't think that a continuation of the previous turnchat is a good enough argument because that gets us on a slippery slope that could potentially lead to a president ignoring turnchat laws
2.There is no such thing as a special session , just one where the DP ends the session after one turn.

On a side note I encourage any citizen willing to propose leglislation authorizing special turnchats.

 

[GenMarshall]

On a side note I encourage any citizen willing to propose leglislation authorizing special turnchats.

I can certanly whip up one. Though oviously it will have to be a rough draft first so that additional addition and changes can be done .

Edit: I have created a proposal, but I am holding off the request of a review untill a Final Draft is done of if the Judicary sees the proposal fit. Which ever comes first .

 

[DaveShack]

CJ Ruling, DG6T3JR1.

On question 1, there is no special provision for special play sessions, so all TCITs must be opened at least 3 days before the scheduled time.

On question 2, the law does not have the concept of a special session, therefore the proposed session cannot be a special session.

On the citizen comments regarding this situation, there does not seem to be any time limit on how long a play session can last -- but when it's declared over, the next play would be a new session.

 

[mhcarver]

anyone heard from the governor of middle earth? he hasn't posted in his thread since the ninth and I'm waiting to hear if I can be mayor,,,,,,,

 

[GenMarshall]

anyone heard from the governor of middle earth? he hasn't posted in his thread since the ninth and I'm waiting to hear if I can be mayor,,,,,,,

I have seen Noldy posting outside the Demogame. Sadly there is no written law regarding absences. Most likely that the absences go through an unwritten rule by tradition that if an offical has gone on an unadnounce absences that the deputy becomes the offical by eather the judicary or the president (I dont remember at this point how they did it in demogames past). I beleve there should be a written law inplace regarding absences and the proper procedure to replace the absent offical. The law should cover general absence (Not posting in the DG and CFC for a length of time), Demogame absence (posting in other parts of CFC but not the DG excluding the MSDG), or Adnounced absence (Posting in the "absence thread" adnouncing their planed absence with an arival time.).

 

[mhcarver]

I have seen Noldy posting outside the Demogame. Sadly there is no written law regarding absences. Most likely that the absences go through an unwritten rule by tradition that if an offical has gone on an unadnounce absences that the deputy becomes the offical by eather the judicary or the president (I dont remember at this point how they did it in demogames past). I beleve there should be a written law inplace regarding absences and the proper procedure to replace the absent offical. The law should cover general absence (Not posting in the DG and CFC for a length of time), Demogame absence (posting in other parts of CFC but not the DG excluding the MSDG), or Adnounced absence (Posting in the "absence thread" adnouncing their planed absence with an arival time.).

ah my young protege you seem to have overlooked code of laws section 5b

        b.  Should an official fail to post in the DG forum for 3
            days in a thread related to their area without prior 
            notice, the Judiciary may declare that office Vacant.

and also our constitution states

            4.  The President will appoint a citizen to any Vacant
                office. If a deputy exists for that office, the 
                President must appoint that citizen. This appointment 
                may be challenged by any citizen by that citizen 
                posting a confirmation poll within 24 hours of the 
                appointment.

 

[GenMarshall]

ah my young protege you seem to have overlooked code of laws section 5b

        b.  Should an official fail to post in the DG forum for 3
            days in a thread related to their area without prior 
            notice, the Judiciary may declare that office Vacant.

and also our constitution states

            4.  The President will appoint a citizen to any Vacant
                office. If a deputy exists for that office, the 
                President must appoint that citizen. This appointment 
                may be challenged by any citizen by that citizen 
                posting a confirmation poll within 24 hours of the 
                appointment.

Doh, How can I over look that. I must have use control-F and just entered in the words "absent" and "absence" . So this law would cover officals posting outside the Demogame, but would be considerd absent if he or she does not post in the demogame forum in 3 days. I can already tell that 5 days of RL College exams can realy fry the cyberbrain . I had a gut feeling that the president appoints citizens or deputies but was not sure.
Please dont give an F to this DG Judicary Student .

 

[Black_Hole]

we get to grade you?

 

[DaveShack]

I have sent a PM and posted a query in the Middle Earth Governor's mansion regarding Noldodan's absence. We can give a little time for a response before ruling on a vacancy. There doesn't seem to be a deputy, unless I missed that appointment somewhere.

 

[GenMarshall]

Also, Dave, have you PMed Noldy?

Edit: PS, speaking about PMs, have you responded to the PM I've sent you at the beguinning of this month?

 

[DaveShack]

Governor Noldodan posted in the TCIT, so vacancy proceedings are withdrawn for now.

 

[GenMarshall]

24 Earth Hours has passed and its time to present the proposed poll for the change in the consitution. I am submitting this to the Term 3 court for Judicial Review of the following proposed legislation.

Proposed Poll
Do you approve of the following changes to the Consitution?
Yes/No/Abstain and will run for a maxumum of 96 Hours

Original Text of the current consitution

Article J.  All irreversible game actions must progress during a 
            scheduled game session while reversible game actions 
            (i.e. build queues) that adhere to legal instructions can 
            be prepared offline before the scheduled game session. 
            
            1.  An instruction thread must be created at least 3 days 
                before the scheduled turnchat.
                a.  All official instructions must be posted in the 
                    current instruction thread. Instructions must be 
                    clear and defined.
                b.  Officials must post their instructions at least 
                    one hour before the game session. Offcials may 
                    make changes to their instructions up to an hour 
                    before the game session, so long as those changes 
                    are clearly noted.

New changes (In Boldface)

Article J.  All irreversible game actions must progress during a 
            scheduled game session while reversible game actions 
            (i.e. build queues) that adhere to legal instructions can 
            be prepared offline before the scheduled game session. 
            
            1.  An instruction thread must be created at least 3 days 
                before the scheduled turnchat.
                a.  All official instructions must be posted in the 
                    current instruction thread. Instructions must be 
                    clear and defined.
                b.  Officials must post their instructions at least 
                    one hour before the game session. Offcials may 
                    make changes to their instructions up to an hour 
                    before the game session, so long as those changes 
                    are clearly noted.
                [b]c.  A special sessions to achieve a single specific task is
                    exempt from the 3 day creation rule provided no turns are 
                    played.  Such sessions shall be scheduled and the TCIT 
                    posted no less than 24 hours in advance and only the 
                    single specific action to take shall be posted in the TCIT.
                    An offical from which the department would be effected
                    can freely object if they find that there is not sufficient 
                    time for discussion[/b]

As a Student of the Judicary, I shall avoid the conflict of interest and keep my $.02 to myself for the duration of the review of this proposed changes .

 

[DaveShack]

CG's request for a JR of proposed legislation is accepted as having merit and numbered DG6T3JR2.

CJ Ruling: I find the proposed legislation is not in conflict with the existing law.

 

[Black_Hole]

I find the proposed legislation is not in conflict with any laws and may proceed to polling after the ruling of the Judge Advocate

 

[mhcarver]

I agree with my collegaues the proposed leglislation has no conflict and may proceed to polling