Term 4 - The Senate

[tao]

IMHO we already made 1 major blunders slowing our wonder build:
- producing knight first
- not using (against my advice) the forest
If we loose the race, these may be the reasons.
Under no circumstances should we reduce happiness causing further delays. research is second. Producing cash for hurrying the temple is third.

And of course I agree with Chieftess.

 

[Rik Meleet]

Originally posted by Chieftess
Remember that lowering luxuries may increase unhappiness... and that we're almost done researching Banking. *PLEASE* vote to lower science to whatever amount when there's 1 turn left.

I am the VP; I am not forgetting those things. Remember how I fought against non-flexible instructions ?

 

[Rik Meleet]

Senators:

Please state your preferences about:
Sliders.
Cashrushes.
Worker-assignment

 

[tao]

IMHO we should now research as fast as we can while maintaining a positive income.

I request cashrushes for the new city "Steal Incense" and Kadessa in my turnchat instructions (already written, just waiting for the thread).

Worker actions are also detailed. Please execute mine in Audiac rather than the DoI's. Thank you.

 

[gert-janl]

Sliders
Cut science back to 50%! We can make money for the next 4 turns at the same research rate. When we have researched astronomy, we can return to our regular (60%) tech setting.
As long as we don't get new luxuries we have to maintain this high luxury setting, which leaves us with very few gpt. We don't really have a choice if we want to maintain productivity in our core cities.

Cashrushes
Not really needed in Alluares, the way I see it now: we still have way too much jungle that blocks growth.

Worker Actions
I didn't know this was the responsibility of the Senate (I actually think it isn't), but I have no problem spreading my views about it here. I think it is very important to keep up the current workforce, and not add any workers to cities. Alluares is waiting to be liberated from the jungle, so any worker without a serious task should be moved here.

 

[Rik Meleet]

tao: I agree research stays important. 50% as GJL suggest sounds well enough to me (but I am not a Senator). Can you please name some numbers of %-ages and amounts ?

You are Senators; you decide if the nation cashruses and if so what and where for how much. Same is true for sliders: You hold the power to control this completely. And not forgetting workers; the DoI is an unofficial office; the Senate still controls the workers for the full 100%.

Use the force, Luke !

 

[tao]

I don't want to give %. The % are determined by the requests:
- enough lux to not slow wonder building cities
- enough lux to not have clowns/specialist in more than about 2-3 cities
- research as fast as possible with positive income
- lower research slider, if this does not prolong research (in the last 1-3 turns, usually)

If enough cash is acculated for the rush jobs, do them in the following priority:
temple in "Steal Incense", walls in "Steal Incense", library in Kadessa.

 

[gert-janl]

Originally posted by tao
I don't want to give %. The % are determined by the requests:
- enough lux to not slow wonder building cities
- enough lux to not have clowns/specialist in more than about 2-3 cities

As new trade routes will become available in 4 turns, when we research Astronomy, we may lower the luxury slider, without upsetting people. The exact slider setting will have to be determined by the DP.

 

[Rik Meleet]

I see that the Senators apparently have said what they wanted to say. I call on a vote.

Sliders
Sci-slider to get Astronomy in 4 turns from now.
Lux-slider to a setting that at most 2 cities or 3 towns need entertainers.
Tax-slider: the remainder.

Item 3: Sliders
Do you want the above slider settings? (Y / N / A).


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Cashrushes
If we have the funds: temple in "Steal Incense", walls in "Steal Incense", library in Kadessa; in that order.

Item 4: Cashrushes
Do you approve the above proposed cashrushes ? (Y / N / A).


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Worker actions
Tao has proposed this:

Mure has much more improved tiles, than it can work for centuries.
1 worker should stay, 3 move where they are needed.
Sanction does not need 5 workers; 3 is plenty.
Bootsville is completely improved. It does not need 3 workers. (And forest planting is folly, because it kills growth.)
Working forest in Ville de Buisson turns it into a 2 turn settler factory.

Gert-JanL has proposed this:
Do not add any workers to cities.
Alluares is waiting to be liberated from the jungle, so any worker without a serious task should be moved here.

Item 5: workers
Do you approve the above proposed worker-tasks? (Y / N / A).


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Senators: the vote is open !!
Vote in this thread by a simple:

Item 3: X,
Item 4: X,
Item 5: X
(where X is Y, N or A; for yes, no or abstain).

 

[gert-janl]

Item 3: Y
Item 4: Y
Item 5: Y

 

[Noldodan]

Item 3: Yes
Item 4: Yes
Item 5: Yes

 

[ravensfire]

As a citizen, I challenge the constitutionality of item 5. Worker actions are within the domain of the President. Neither the Senate, nor a Governor, may post instructions on worker actions, only post requests.

-- Ravensfire

 

[Rik Meleet]

@RF:

In order to maintain friendly and cooperating relations with everyone I will post Item 5 as a request.

Would you be so kind to tell me the law-article that assigns worker-tasks; I've looked through the books, but (english isn't my native language) I am not 100% sure where it belongs.

I specifically asked the DoI if the senate was to assign worker-tasks and it was confirmed. Of course the DoI's opinion never goes above the law.

 

[zorven]

@ Rik Meleet -

Code of Law B.1.d gives the President domain over workers.

B.  The Executive Branch 
  1.  Presidency 
    a.  The Leader of the Executive Branch is the President. 
    b.  The Deputy of the Presidency is the Vice President. 
    c.  Is responsible for determining what to do with Great 
        Leaders. 
    d.  Is responsible for worker activities. 
    e.  Is responsible for policies, plans and agendas for 
        departments when these have not been set by a 
        department. 
    f.  Is responsible for policies, plans and agendas for 
        items and activities that have not been defined as a 
        task of an individual department or leader.

 

[Rik Meleet]

Thank you.

 

[gert-janl]

Fellow Senators,

The Province of Alluares has slowly been developing over the last centuries. Progress have been achieved with regard to corruption and tile improvements. However, Acheron is still lacking ways to fight corruption effectively and has several important queues on its list. I would therefore like to hereby submit a Cashrush Request to rush a courthouse in Acheron the next turnchat. The cost will be 200 gold, which is IMHO a respectable price.
When the courthouse is rushed, Acheron could better develop itself into an important production core.

The population of Alluares trusts that the Senate will decide wisely...

 

[GenMarshall]

Hmm, I am a little disapointed that my deputy has not voted while I was away.

 

[Chieftess]

I am requesting an upgrade of 4 Pikemen to Musketeers (240g), and an upgrade of 3 Spears to Musketeers (240g). That's 480g total. We have 526g in our treasury. Both would be done by pressing Shift-U on a pike, and spear.

 

[Rik Meleet]

Senators:

A request has been submitted by Chieftess. I'm going to split them into 2 items.

Item 6:
Do you approve the upgrade of 4 Pikemen to Musketeers for 240 gold ? ( Y / N / A ).

item 7:
Do you approve the upgrade of 3 spears to Musketeers for 240 gold? ( Y / N / A ).

 

[gert-janl]

Item 5+6: Y

We need musketeers, period.

But what about my cashrush request? Aren't we going to vote for that?

I am in favor (of course) of my cashrush request, but I think that Chieftess' request is more urgent. So my cashrush should happen a few turns later, so that it's cheaper, and we have the money.

523-480=43
53gpt gives in 3 turns the opportunity to rush my courthouse.