The end of free computing?

[CenturionV]

http://www.stoppalladium.org/html/m...&categories=General+questions+about+Palladium

read this and see what you think.....
this could easily be the end of free computing (not to mention a basic voilation of our rights as free people) i relly hope this NEVER actually happens i would rather not own a computer than have to use them how microsoft says.

 

[bladester]

I totally agree with you. If that ever happened I won't be upgrading. The only reason I got XP now is because it came with my new laptop but if Microsoft does implement Palladium I will stick to Linux.

 

[Wolfe Tone]

That totally sucks. I just hope that the smart people out there will find a way around it.

 

[CruddyLeper]

I predicted this on the cards years ago - but I am confused by the term "free" computing.

Computers always cost. Even if you get all the hardware, software, and technical help for free, it still costs electricity to power the things.

So "free" computing is a myth, I think.

 

[Mikoyan]

Originally posted by bladester
I totally agree with you. If that ever happened I won't be upgrading. The only reason I got XP now is because it came with my new laptop but if Microsoft does implement Palladium I will stick to Linux.

Palladium is going to be included in Linux kernels too, or so i've been told...

 

[funxus]

I don't like the sound of this, but hopefully, software will become much cheaper if less people use pirate copies.

 

[JoeP]

people won't let it happen.

 

[CenturionV]

I don't like the sound of this, but hopefully, software will become much cheaper if less people use pirate copies.

yep, software you can use on only 1 computer and that microsoft can stop you from using whenever they feel like to keep your computer "secure" (security to microsoft means were they control everything you can and can't do)

 

[Archer 007]

That sucks that you wouldn't be able to use software on multiple systems. Having multiple copies of the same game sounds extreme.

 

[t92300]

Originally posted by archer_007
That sucks that you wouldn't be able to use software on multiple systems. Having multiple copies of the same game sounds extreme.

not to mention all the space all the boxes would take up

Palldium =
in short a hacker could shut down all the computers in the world not funny

 

[bladester]

Originally posted by Mikoyan

Palladium is going to be included in Linux kernels too, or so i've been told...

Aaarrghhh

I wonder how that would work with linux though. It is open source (atleast im 90% sure it is) after all and we can easily modify the kernel code if we wanted to.

 

[ainwood]

Originally posted by bladester


Aaarrghhh

I wonder how that would work with linux though. It is open source (atleast im 90% sure it is) after all and we can easily modify the kernel code if we wanted to.

Its built into the hardware - its not a software-only thing.

 

[Archer 007]

This is more creppy by the minute.

 

[hbdragon88]

When you download a certificate you will also be registered online, so that you can't install this software on any other computer, even if you uninstall it on the first computer. Programs that don't have a certificate can't be started under Palladium.

That's evil, to not even allow you to install it on another computer if you uninstall it on the first. What, you have to tote around that same computer everywhere to run that program? What if you get a new computer and you want to transfer all the programs, you have to buy all-new software for that comptuer?

 

[Jeratain]

Originally posted by hbdragon88


That's evil, to not even allow you to install it on another computer if you uninstall it on the first. What, you have to tote around that same computer everywhere to run that program? What if you get a new computer and you want to transfer all the programs, you have to buy all-new software for that comptuer?

I'm sure it will be similar to the current XP activation system. You can change your code if you get a new computer.

 

[bladester]

Microsoft and others are taking this too far. If this is implemented we may even have to licence our copies of programs such as word monthly or so. In which case we won't actually own any software but just get a lease each time we need to use it.

This is a major bummer and I for one am glad I recently got a new laptop that will easily last me for 5-10years. It would be even worse if games such as civ needed to be "renewed" every now and then.

I certainly hope palladium doesn't see the light of day!

 

[funxus]

A friend said that they might include it in servers instead of all new computers and thus just make sure that no illegal files are being transferred via their servers. Don't know much about it though. This would seem a lot fairer, downloading software, video and music is after all illegal, but they won't have control over my computer.

 

[Wolfe Tone]

Originally posted by funxus
would seem a lot fairer, downloading software, video and music is after all illegal,

Not all software, video and music are illegal to download. Some bands put up MP3s to download to get a sample.

 

[Aphex_Twin]

I say this to all you concerned Americans: burn down Redmond before it's too late !

[notice the absence of the smilie]

 

[nihilistic]

Originally posted by Mikoyan
Palladium is going to be included in Linux kernels too, or so i've been told...

You realize that in Linux YOU get to choose what kernels you want to load, right?

Originally posted by ainwood
Its built into the hardware - its not a software-only thing.

Yes, that's a requirement. No software environment by itself can be inherently secure. And judging from history, hardware isn't inpenetrable either. So there are in fact two obstacles that must be overcomed before this can ever happen:

1. A whole generation of absolutely secure hardware that MUST BE ABSOLUTELY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE PREVIOUS GENERATION OF HARDWARE. If it can work in any way with existing hardware, its security is compromized.

2. It require a group of idiots stupid enough to buy it. That's right. If you will actually buy into this, you are dumber than the people who chose the red imac over the blue because it has a red cupholder.