The FORTH worst UU

which one is the forth worst UU

  • Bowman

    Votes: 23 22.5%
  • Keshik

    Votes: 6 5.9%
  • War elephant

    Votes: 10 9.8%
  • Musketeer

    Votes: 25 24.5%
  • Cossack

    Votes: 5 4.9%
  • Conquistador

    Votes: 29 28.4%
  • Panzer

    Votes: 4 3.9%

  • Total voters
    102
I voted for the Conquistador. It replaces a virtually useless unit (explorer) with a unit that has very low attack numbers in an age when it will be going up against a defense of 4. You can't keep it in enemy territory due to its offence and it is too weak to be used as either an attacker or defender.

I like the hit and run strategy suggested earlier in this forum and may try it out at a later date.

Can a GA be triggered with the Conquistador by capturing enemy workers?
 
Conquistidor is my favorite UU. U cannot trigger a GA by capturing workers tho. The trick is to put them with a defensive stack and retreat to that stack and mop up weakened attackers-thus triggering ur GA. A defensive Army is the best for this as the AI refuses to attack it. Them ol Conquistidors can really reak havoc-also they are great for destroying low tech AI. Which is what they actually did historically. The Conquistidors were never an army that faced another European foe in so far as i know.
 
Originally posted by RealGoober
War Elephant is the worst in my experience. I can never get BOTh iron and horses, VERY annoying. When I do, it is outdated.

:hmm:
your statement seems a bit conflictive by nature...;)


Try this:
Don't even search for iron & horses and build your Elephant straight away.
Somehow, the War Elephant doesn't need iron or horses.:)


This thread was made pre-C3C, but C3C's War Elephant is probably a good choice due to scarce resources and hitpoint bonus.
 
This poll is invalid now that C3C is out, all of those UUs have recieved improvements.

Bowman: Upgrade line actually leads somewhere and by the way this unit has the defensive bombard (as does its predeccesors) feature so a stack of these babies can be difficult to assualt. The early GA is a downer however

Keshik: Okay not much improvement

War Elephant: Not much added although it does recieve a bonus Hit Point so really it's a medieval ancient cav

Musketeer: IIRC the extra attack was shifted over to defence so now you have a 2/5/1 unit, not too shabby.

Cossack: Although I don't see this as much compensation for not recieving any bonuses whatsoever and costing more, other do however. It benefits from the blitz ability, it's extra defense point is no longer existent

Conquistador: Doesn't recieve any new abilties, but it's uses have been stated before in this thread.

Panzer: This is on the list why?

Others people have mentioned:

H'wach: Has lethal land and sea bombard, whether this starts a golden age I am not sure of

Man O' War: Can Enlave other sea units to Man 'O Wars, plus with Ironclads moved back on the tech tree, the life of these units is extended
 
in c3c the muskateer has an extra defens insted of atack, and the war elaphant has an extra hp
 
Actually, most of them are pretty useless.

Bowman: One of the better ones in the poll.
Keshik: ... sucks. I thought the Mongolians should have some good UU but Keshik really blows, always getting killed in the war.
War elephant: Can't even beat up a Samurai. urg...
Musketeer: Just look at it, a bagpipe player with big clown hats.
Cossack: This is pretty good, actually.
Conquistador: Haven't really used it before.
Panzer: I never play as the Germans.
 
i allways thot that the conqusador is usefull, it whold be good for raiding weak ungarder citys far beyond other units rech, dont need to worry about barbs when exploring, and a good scout., and after playing a game as the indeas, i like the war elahant, its extrea hit point can save me, and if u have no resorces its good :D
 
I voted for Bowmen. I rarely, if ever, build archers.

OT: I'm LOVING the new Cossacks though. The blitz is incredible when paired with artillery support. :cool:

Yay! First post!
 
Originally posted by Lord_all_Mighty

H'wach: Has lethal land and sea bombard, whether this starts a golden age I am not sure of

Haven't actually tried in-game yet, but it does have the Starts Golden Age flag in the Editor, so I suspect it does.

It's Hwach'a, BTW.
 
the Hwach'a does start a golden age. i been playing the koreans today so i think i would know.

Anyway i vote for the conquestador.

Expensive. Useless. Obserlete.
 
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