Could this be a possible small wonder? The way I see it, countries that have developed a certain tech advance (not sure what it would be but anyway) would be able to compete for the hosting of the Olympic Games every 75 turns or so. Whoever 'builds' the wonder will get to host the games and get the cultural points or something. In theory, every country could compete for the Games each time.
The Olympic Games?
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Yuri2356
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Nice Idea.
Whoever wins the games should get bonus culture, and the hosting civ would get extra income for the duration of the games.
Whoever wins the games should get bonus culture, and the hosting civ would get extra income for the duration of the games.
nebuchadnezzar
King of New Babylon
i think of that for long time(actually for civ3) but couldn't fit in the game.
things i thought:
Olympic Stadium (something like a small wonder)
preq:
- modern sports tech
- 5 colloseums (dep. on map size, maybe 2 less than f.p. city limit)
- can be built only in a metro city
effect:
- one per X turns becomes an olympic turn
- the host city gets commerce bonus (maybe +1 per square)
- all unhappy citizens are made happy in the city
- during olympic turn no one can atack. if attacks, he is never loved any more
the problem is how to select the host city.. only cities that built the wonder are selected, and before reaching a certain number of built olympic stadiums, no olympiads.
things i thought:
Olympic Stadium (something like a small wonder)
preq:
- modern sports tech
- 5 colloseums (dep. on map size, maybe 2 less than f.p. city limit)
- can be built only in a metro city
effect:
- one per X turns becomes an olympic turn
- the host city gets commerce bonus (maybe +1 per square)
- all unhappy citizens are made happy in the city
- during olympic turn no one can atack. if attacks, he is never loved any more
the problem is how to select the host city.. only cities that built the wonder are selected, and before reaching a certain number of built olympic stadiums, no olympiads.
Yuri2356
Test Screening
I'd say selection would Either be random, or voted on like a diplomatic victory.
A third option would be establishing an olympic counsel that chooses the "best" of the olimpic cities, never the same one twice in a row. Like in Reality.
A third option would be establishing an olympic counsel that chooses the "best" of the olimpic cities, never the same one twice in a row. Like in Reality.
mintyfreshdeath
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I think the only thing that gives the modern Olympics any cultural power is the fact that it's roots lie in the games in ancient Greece. I would suggest it be an ancient Wonder.
I'm unsure what sort of effect it might have. The ancient Greek city states were at constant war with one another but when the games were held a ceasefire.. or truce, not sure which, were declared and was mandatory. War could not be declared between the city states for the duration of the games.
Several events in the games were also seen as an extension of physical training for Greek soldiers. Perhaps it could be a high culture small wonder that produces an 1 elite unit out of every 5 veteran units and lasts until the middle ages?
I'm unsure what sort of effect it might have. The ancient Greek city states were at constant war with one another but when the games were held a ceasefire.. or truce, not sure which, were declared and was mandatory. War could not be declared between the city states for the duration of the games.
Several events in the games were also seen as an extension of physical training for Greek soldiers. Perhaps it could be a high culture small wonder that produces an 1 elite unit out of every 5 veteran units and lasts until the middle ages?
h4ppy
You sir, pineapple?
Yuri2356 said:
But seriously I would be against it because the Olympics are rather unimportant when you actually look at them.
KabeDerlin
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That and the fact that the games last maybe a month and a half at most and the smallest turn is 1 year. But other than that Im all for it. It'd be great.
mintyfreshdeath
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h4ppy: I looked at it and I guess I didn't quite see what you see. I think they are important; particularly the ancient olympic games. The cultural impact has been huge on western civilization.. if not then why are the modern olympics such a massive event? Why is it considered such a high achievement, even in this day and age, to attain gold at one's chosen sport? I can't quite say, at least not without thinking about it alot first, but it's not really a matter of one's personal views on the olympics.. the fact is is that they ARE a very important cultural institution.
I can't see how the modern olympics could really fit into civ3 but I certainly feel that the ancient olympics could fit in rather well. I often wonder why they have been excluded at all.
PS. Kabederlin: Have you seen those transports move? They'll take at least 2 years to cross an ocean.
I can't see how the modern olympics could really fit into civ3 but I certainly feel that the ancient olympics could fit in rather well. I often wonder why they have been excluded at all.
PS. Kabederlin: Have you seen those transports move? They'll take at least 2 years to cross an ocean.
Dreadnought
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In Greece it was wars were stopped for the olympics but now its the olympics are stopped for wars (such as in 1916 WW1, and 1940, 1944 WW2)nebuchadnezzar said:
Waiguo_Chaoren
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Has no one suggested sport as a tech before? Considering how important sport is in social life, it should be included. Maybe an ancient "Blood Sports" tech (colosseum) can become "Competitive Sports" tech (stadium) in the modern age. What effects might they have?- well, colosseums give happy faces, modern stadiums can give extra happy faces, the olympic games as a minor wonder which can increase cultural influence for 10 turns (?) after it is built, plus a new English UU: the football hooligan
English UU: football hooligan
![[pissed]](/images/smilies/pissed.gif "Pissed [pissed]")
Wot you look'in at?
English UU: football hooligan
Wot you look'in at?
norwegianviking
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I Agree, maybe the blood sports allows the coleseum, which gives 2-5 happy faces at the cost of a pop point!Waiguo_Chaoren said:
And the modern olympics should be like the UN council, a hosting country is chosen every X turns, that country gets plus 2 commerce for 4 turns, and a winning country is determined by civ strength (should be new feature for having wars, germany 5?, france 2?, America 6?) and athletics slider (like the entertainment and science slider!).
p.s. stadium should give twice as many happy faces as coleseum.
gustavope
Chieftain
The civ 4 should have Football world Cup(Soccer, no rugby i don't know why americans and australians call soccer). Then the Brazil, Italy and germany nas receive some extra points.
norwegianviking
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Maybe you send Athlete units to face other athlete units, exept it dosn't declare war and when they lose they return to there home city
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
I was thinking about this same thing last night watching the games. My thought was, once every 50 turns you hold the olympic games. You have to have an olympics small wonder available with an AA tech to hold them. Automatic peace throughout the world. It lasts for one turn. The host city is chosen at random by the computer but is weighted for infrastructure and culture. The host city gets a culture bump for holding the games, and maybe a tourist attraction bonus during that turn.
The war implications might be very interesting. If you knew the olympics were coming up in say three turns, you could start a very short war.
The war implications might be very interesting. If you knew the olympics were coming up in say three turns, you could start a very short war.
nebuchadnezzar
King of New Babylon
it can be more generic: Sports Industry. a modern age tech, modern city improvements could be built OR colloseums produce more happy faces.
mintyfreshdeath
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Sir Bugsy... the world hasn't suddenly broken out in peace because of the Athens games.
mintyfreshdeath ... the last remaining superpower usually doesn't seem to be impressed by UN decisions either, so what? An Olympic Games wonder would be as realistic as the UN wonder.
Though I would like the concept: A letter from the UN to the White House, "You lost the game and suffered a diplomatic defeat" if there were a vote against the US.
Though I would like the concept: A letter from the UN to the White House, "You lost the game and suffered a diplomatic defeat" if there were a vote against the US.
MeatWad
Hyperspace Hot Rod
mintyfreshdeath said:
They are important because they make BILLIONS of dollars. Bottom line. If they weren't so profitable to so many mega-corporations, you'd be reading about them on page 15 of your daily news stuck between editorials. And that applies to gold medal winners especially. Nike has very deep pockets, and sponsored winners move merchandise. I lived in Atlanta for the '96 games. It was a very crass, commercial atmosphere. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
