the perfect stale mate?

[widdowmaker]

Ok i am greece. I have a problem. I am in a game with ottomans, carthage, korea, egypt, romans, america (dead). i jsut got marines and have most the echs fo the modern era.

I went ot war with egypt and i am a commy gov.

I have about 56-65 cities/metrolisis and egypt has botu the same. I been warrign with them for awhiel now and we are doing HIT for HIt blow for BLOW! I mean it is a stale mate. I wen tto mbilization wartime and am doing nuthin but crankin the marines out. I got 5-10 naval bombard ment includng destroyers and have 4 allies. (i am a n00b thsi si chefitian. please dotn laugh.)

I SWEAR! it si impossible! I mena i hti egypt and htey hit me back. i lose a city the lose 2. I lose 100 workers (when i took america i captured their workers and i bene prducign them like mad. I got close 2 250 workers wiht a limit of 400 on mil units. I am pumping out marines calvary and gurrilas. I gotr seveal settlers onthe ready and rails all over the place. I can get anywher withotu waiting. The settlers are there to reinhabit cities if the get razed and to spawn new ones as i gian teritorry.

Now then i have a spy in everything except korea and coudl give EXCAT unti counts for me and any civ you need if it woudl help. It jsut seems liek i cant get in. I took boston (they took it form america) and they took it back. I lost 16 artilery in that capture and 5 workers along with a settler. I had jsu tmvoed them on the tiel cause knights were folowing htem.

Now i spent an hour and WELL over 150 calvary plus 5 or 6 artilery and 100's of conscripts trying to take boston back. (it is in a crucial point). I microed my food to get a new pop every 3 turns and microed so i get 25 +sheilds base. (not inculding the hoover dam) Now i an get 150 consripts at once and get them to the fornt line fi need be. and in 4 turns completly replenish that and have everyoen happy. The con's are to distract them while i get the good stuff ready.

I jsut need soem help! i will have to give up unless ic na make some progress. I cold post screens if i knew how. I thank you in advance for any help given. (if thsi si the wrong forum please put it in the right one.)

 

[Coffee]

Sounds like a heck of a battle. Can you get troops or planes into a position to pillage their strategic resources. Or cut the access routes to slow their resupply rate.

 

[DiamondzAndGunz]

That's interesting. How come you're only using cavalry if you're in the modern era? start cranking out modern armor, or at the very least, tanks. instead of trying to take cities with cavalry, you could try and instead take them with infantry. Same attack, better defense, so they can hold the city after you capture it.

If you're using so much cavalry to try and take cities, why not build up more artillery, and bomb all their defensive units down to 1 hit point before attacking? That might save you a lot of attackers. Marines are also pretty bad- once you gain access to a city on their continent (I assume they are on a diff continent, since you are using marines to invade. if they are on the same continent, dont bother with marines- just get your good troops, like tanks, over there), just continue to ship your units and pile them up. Once you have a nice stack, go for one city, then the next, etc.

As mentioned above, try to pillage their resources, if possible.

 

[widdowmaker]

Ha. I did. i left detials out. My current forces.

35 artilery
57 infantry
65 calvary (form the last age)
45 marines
5 destroers
3 battle ships
(i get planes in 3 turns)
4 carriers
1 sub
250 worker 2/3 of wich are slaves.
No tanks yet.
And i kidn fo dont want to pillage. I plan to use their lands afterwards! stil a stale mate but i took al their artilery and 1/2 their workers. I also took 3 cities and propaganda one (it failed)

I hate to resort to this buti am thinking bout peace then ROP Rape. I REALLY dont wan tto though.

Hmm.

Damn fools they razed 5 of my metros! grrrr!!! thats it i am here by conscripting every living soul in ym empire into the armed forces. I am rebuying MA's with everyone and am goign to over whelm them with numbers! THEY SHALL NOT HAVE ME!

More to come. Still stale mate. cons dead. pop replced dur to HUGE food intake. I took in fod quicker than i can take in cons.

 

[DiamondzAndGunz]

Ahh, so you're in the industrial age, huh? (well, if you don't have tanks, you must still be industrial, right?). Build up more artillery, back it up with infantry, and bring in your cavalry/marines along with them. Attack with as many guys in one turn as you can; don't spread your forces thin over several turns.

Don't worry about pillaging their resources; with all those slaves, you should be able to rebuild their roads in no time. Pillage all their important resources; rubber; oil; iron; etc.

Set your research path towards tanks. They should really help you out in this war. You might want to keep all your troops at home until then, unless you want to lose more troops trying to capture more cities. Just fight a defensive war, guarding all cities that are at risk of attack with the troops that you have.

 

[Padma]

@widdowmaker: Is this a multiplayer/PBEM game? If it is, no problem. If it is a single-player game (you against the AI) I will move it to the correct forum.

BTW, the advice DiamondzAndGunz is giving you is very sound.

 

[widdowmaker]

thsi is a sp game. Lease the n0b night mare did not get me. Sorry if rong forum but i did nto knwo WHERE to puyt it.

 

[widdowmaker]

sorry bout all the typos. Just woke up and missed them.

 

[china444]

you might want to fix your sig, also.

 

[Ralph-x]

Get flight and airports as well, it makes taking another island about a thousand times easier if you can hold 1 city long enough to get an airport in it then rush troops as soon as you can make them.

Always use LOTs of troops, you want enough to take the city in 1 turn because if you have to wait a turn all there units heal and they rush a load more. Lots of bombardment helps aswell. Fill some offshore carriers with bombers, park a stack of units outside their city and bomb it to the ground, then attack on the same turn.

 

[farting bob]

they got 5 metropolises? thats a weird stalemate.
declare peace. build up with tanks, infantry, whatever for at least 20 turns then stack them into a biig group of hundreds of units. then go round attacking cities all at the same time. every city you take put at least 3 infantry in, then move on quickly. then have the slaves build any roads needed to join it up, so it can build more defence buildings and units.

 

[widdowmaker]

hanks guys. IT worked. Egypt is history and i now contorl their contry wich was huge. I got too many cities and half of them are hopelessly corupt.

 

[Hygro]

dude, could you post a save from the start of the war? this sounds like fun!

 

[itsa95thing]

Yeah this sounds like a very interesting game.

 

[Moonsinger]

Originally posted by widdowmaker
My current forces.

35 artilery
57 infantry
65 calvary (form the last age)
45 marines
5 destroers
3 battle ships
(i get planes in 3 turns)
4 carriers
1 sub
250 worker 2/3 of wich are slaves.

How much gold do you have? If you have about 3000 gold, you could do the following:

1. Disband 45 marines for shields and pay gold to rush about 65 more artilleries.

2. You are now have an invincible force. That stack of 100 artilleries would allow you to defend yourself against any type of enemy force.

3. Just wait a few turn for them to run out of fast units, then use your artillery to reduce their defenders to 1HP before sending in your cavalries for the kill.

For more information on the use of artillery, check the Strategy Article forum. Have fun!

 

[Speaker]

I agree with Moonsinger. When fighting in the late Industrial Age before Tanks, I always try to have a force of 50-75-100 artillery. They are cheap to build and disband for something like 22 shields (if need be for rushing temples during resistance). Fortified Infantry in a metropolis or city send Cavalry to the glue factory unless they have been redlined. Nothing can stop the Super Stack of Artillery Doom (TM).

 

[Hygro]

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[widdowmaker]

Sure i will post a save tonight. It is on cheiftan cuz it was m first tiem and i was learnin the controls. The big battle was right next to boston and i was havin trouble gettign arilery up there. The battles to the south went well enough but once carthage got there it ended quickly as i made peace and let the ai's raze them so i could replace the cites with my own. Anyways ti worked.

My numbers may be way off as it is a war and i keep losing track of units, they die, i make more, ECT. So if you find i have NO marines dont be suprised as the war stared 150 turns before i got them.