Thermopylae

. And as their 'demokratia' was founded on the exclusion of slaves, women, and metics, I don't think it's much to brag about.
Er..as was the USA. :o

Oh, come on, this doesn't even pass the smell test. There have been any number of successful American war films about the Vietnam War, for example. Or the Iraq War.

In none of these movies does the US lose.
Better examples would be John Wayne's "The Alamo," and Errol Flynn's "They Died with their Boots On" and "Charge of the Light Brigade." However, the point of these movies is that the heroes win by losing.
 
BTW: Having a Persian central character won't work in a movie because the Persians lose. Audiences of war movies hate that.
I'd love to see Hollywood adapt a greek tragedy, where the main character after a rise to power succumbs to hybris and is punished by the gods for his insolence by robbing everything from him, and he dies in a ditch somewhere. That would be so against current narrative in today's movies that I would pay money just to see the faces of the moviegoers after they leave the theater and they're trying to figure out what just happened.

:D
As much as this made me grin, I believe similarities between Persian and Spartan societies were on the whole a lot larger than differences.
Let's not swap one lopsided narrative with another, mkay? :)
It's the ancient world. Most everyone were not very nice people by today's standards.

I think he is making a joke about contemporary apologists of imperialism, but I could be misreading.
Well, I was spinning the story a bit, but when you read about spartan and persian societies, and value them on today's standards, the persians do come ahead a bit I'd say.
 
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I'd love to see Hollywood adapt a greek tragedy, where the main character after a rise to power succumbs to hybris and is punished by the gods for his insolence by robbing everything from him, and he dies in a ditch somewhere.

You would...but you also need to find a studio willing to sink hundreds of millions into an epic of this size. In this age of sequels and remakes, no one will stick his neck out. :scared::scared::scared:

Egon suggested a streaming service series. This may be the way to go. :yup:
 
Yes, as was the USA.

With a small difference of 2300 years having passed between the two. :p

Btw, not seeing why this thread has to be about such things - polemics. The poem i posted wasn't really patriotic (as noted, Cavafy alluded to introverted people, with principles; just uses Thermopylae as a symbol) :)

Damnit, a person nowdays cannot even do something out of vanity without risking attack from unrelated angle.
 
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A movie based on a comic book based on the redacted tales of the spartans
Just take it as an action super hero movie and dont over think things.

I remember when watching 300 the first time in the theater. Reminding myself it was a comic book movie, but when the rhinos & elephants started showing up I was done.
 
Pity a modern Greek can't write a book on sane economic governance. If poems make you feel better.

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