Timeline for RTORNES2

[EQandcivfanatic]

4000 BC: 4 civilizations arise across the world, the: English (uknemisis), Aztecs(EQandCivfanatic), Babylonians (Toasty), and Egyptians (Jason the King).

3800 BC: Nation of India (Kennelly) arises from barbarian tribes along the Indus river. Fighting begins in between Persia and India in a quest for expansion. Mediteranian nations enter the Bronze Age. during a war between the Aztec Empire and local tribes, the tribes lose half their territory, ending the war.

3700 BC: Persia, beaten in the 1st Persian War, tries to regain lost honor by attacking Babylon. Eithiopia succeeds from Egypt, beginning the 1st Eithiopia-Egypt War. Two nations, Russia (SKILORD) and China (erez87), arise from chaos.

3600 BC: Viking Nation (IceEye) arises in Scandinavia. Thanks to brilliant political manuverings, China becomes fully united. refugees from China form the nation of Japan. Rest of Eurasia enters Bronze Age. 1st Eithiopian-Egyptian War continues. Persia conquered by allied Indian and Babylonian forces.

3500 BC: Persia is divided by India and Babylon. Greece gets involved in the 1st Eithiopian-Egyptian war and lands many places along the Egyptian coast. The Viking Empire and Russia continue to expand in the north. Germanic Tribes (das) form an alliance in the north to portect themselves against Viking agression.

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every five days' timelines will be posted daily. feel free to comment on these, and comment what could have happened had something had happened differently (i know you'll love that SKILORD, being a alternate History fan) or what you could have done better.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

3400 BC: The 1st Eithiopian War ends with the creation of Eithiopia and the pullout of Greece. Babylon aquires Sinai from the battered Egyptian nation. Constant demands by the Vikings leads to war in bewteen the Germans and Vikings (IceEye). MPP called the Central Powers forms in between Rome, Greece, and Ireland. Plague begins in the Far East.

3300 BC: Ethiopia joins the Central Powers. Plague spreads throughout the East.

3200 BC: Thanks to the English annexation of Ireland the Central Powers Alliance collapses. Plague continues through Eastern and Northern Europe, but is slowing significantly thanks to a cure discovered by the Egyptians.

3100 BC: Tribes on the Iberian penninsula form the nation of Spain (Revolutionary). Plague dies out throughout Europe. The German-Rus + Viking War begins to die down.

3000 BC: Greece and Rome go to war with eachother, dragging Spain and Babylon into the war against Greece. At the great Battle of Crete the combined Roman, Spainish, and Babylonian forces ended Greek naval dominance. Babylon begins a war against Eithiopia, unknowingly, laying the grounds for the Great War. In the Far East India and China continue their expansion. In the north the Vikings and English are in a race to discover new lands.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

2900 BC: India surprise attacks Babylon escalating what would later be called the Great War. The Indian advance is only stalled at the gates of Babylon. Thanks to the Indian surprise attack Eithiopian forces are able to push the babylonians out of their colonies. Rome and Germany form a new Alliance calling it the New Central Powers Alliance. Vikings and Germans stalemate along the border.

2800 BC: The Great War continues with Babylon being beaten on all fronts. The stalemate along the Viking-German border ends with the Vikings counterattacking and winning several major victories.

2700 BC: Thanks to Iron armed troops Babylonian forces slow the Indian and Eithiopian advances. Egypt enters the Great War on Babylon's side by attacking Eithiopia. Germany counterattacks the Viking counterattack and defeats the surprised Viking army. The Chineese Plague becomes virtually extinct in the world.

2600 BC: Fighting continues in Egypt and Babylon with the Emporer's Alliance slowly gaining ground. Rome enters the war on the Babylonian's side sending supplies to the beleagured nation. Germany conquers Denmark from the Vikings and continues to press hard against the Viking colonies.

Here are some alliances that have occured throughout history:

Central Powers: Ireland, Eithiopia, Rome, and Greece (breifly Germany as well)
New Central Powers: Rome and Germany
Emporer's Alliance: Eithiopia, India, and Vikingland.
Allies (Great War): Egypt, Babylon, Rome, Germany, Russia, and Spain
1st Asian Alliance: India, Mongolia, Japan, and China
2nd Asian Alliance: India, Mongolia, and China
Catholic Powers (formerly New Central Powers): Rome, Germany, France, and Spain
African Alliance: Arab Confederation, Zulu Empire, and Egypt
American Suvival Pact: New England Confederacy, new holland Confederacy, Aztec Empire, and Incan Confederation
3rd Asian Alliance(Great Asian War): Japan, Mongolia, and China
American Pact: Incan Confedration and the New England Confederacy
Viking Defense Pact: France and Vikingland
Pact of Native American Nations: Aztec Empire and the Iriquois Empire

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

2500 BC: The Viking Wars come to an end. The idea of monothesism is discovered by Spainish and Russian scholars. Russia and the Viking Empire enter the Great War, one on the Allied side and the other on the Emporer's Alliance, respectively. Vikings start off their part of the war by striking against Russia.

2400 BC: Great War continues with the Emporer's Alliance being beaten in major battles in Babyon, Eithiopia, and the Viking Empire. In Africa, the Zulu Confederation is formed. In the Middle East the Eithiopian lands have revolted and formed the Arab Confederation causing a major decline in the Eithiopian Empire.

2300 BC: The Emporer's Alliance Collapses with the fall of Eithiopia by Arab and Egyptian forces and the capture of Finland by the Russians from the Vikings. The Viking Empire makes peace with the Allied nations leaving India alone in the war. Elections for the first Catholic pope begin. The Zulu agressively expand north and a group of people called the Kenyans rise up to stop Zululand's rapid northward advance.

2200 BC: Great War ends at long last with the full annexation of Eithiopia and peace made bewtween the Allied nations and India. In Europe Russia converts themselves and the defeated Viking Empire to Eastern Orthodox Christianity. Europeon nations expand their colonization of African lands.

2100 BC: The 2nd Babylonian-Indian War begins threatening to pull the powerful alliances of the New Central Powers and the Asian Alliance into the fray. Zulu Impis invade Kenya beginning the Zulu-Kenyan War. Incan tribes south of the Aztec Empire form the Incan Confederation.

2000 BC: A daring Egyptian landing in India and a drive on Delhi threatens to end the war in defeat for the Asian Alliance. As a result the Egyptian army in India as been surronded outside of Delhi. The Egyptians begin to fight their way to the city. Zulu forces continue to advance in Kenya.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

Here's the next installment of the timeline as i am running out of space on page 1 again.

1900 BC: Egyptian forces surronded in Delhi. Refugees from Europe land in North America and form the New England Confederacy with a ragtag fleet of tiremes, fire tiremes, and caravels. Stalemate begins along the Babylon-India front.

1800 BC: The Zulu Empire continues rapid advance northward gaining still more territory. Tensions in the Asian Alliance result in Japan and Mongolia leaving the alliance and going off on their own. fighting continues in and around Delhi has indian troops attempt to counter attack. With the entry of Spain into the New Central Powers alliance the alliance is renamed to the Catholic Powers. The Catholic pope declares a crusade against the Eastern Orthodox nations of Russia and Vikingland starting off a rapid Roman and German advance to begin the war.

1700 BC: Vikingland leaves the Orthodox Alliance and attempts to rebuild its shattered nation. sneak attacks by a mysterious Iriquois Empire batter Aztec and NEC forces in North America. Catholics continue to rapidly advance against Russian forces, all but a tiny bit slower thanks to the rough Russian winter and effective guerilla tactics. 2nd Babylonian-Indian War ends as the Egyptians surrender at Delhi and the Babylonians give up land. Mongolia annexed by Chineese forces. Catholic pope assinated by Orthodox extremist, hardening the Catholic resolve to conquer Russia. A spainish cardinal takes the place of pope.

1600 BC: War in Russia continues with the Russian Cossaks slowing and at some points even driving back the Catholic advance. Civil War begins in China as it fractures into 4 smaller states (China, Monglia, Shanghai, and Korea). Iriquois advance continues in North America with the Aztecs and the NEC being driven even further back. Mysterious plague from thousands of years back resurfaces and seems to be immune to the ancient cure discovered by the Egyptians. France peacefully revolts from England and Spain. South American tribes not heard from since 3800 BC join the Aztec Empire in the face of the new enemy of the Iriquois.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

1500 BC: Plague dies out as mysteriously as it came, reports show it to orginate from somewhere in the Philppenes. Iriquois stalled at Boston in the East, New Orleanicia in the Southeast, and Teocitiatian in the South. The Russian crusade ends at long last as the Catholic armies withdraw. In the Far East Shaghai and Korea are conquered by India and China, respectively. The Greeks revolt in Rome and capture Athens. The New England Confederacy constructs ships and contacts Spain in an attempt to gain support against the Iriquois. England gives up most of its colonies in return for foreign aid. Egypt enters a age of isolationism under the lead of Prime Minister Cleopatra.

c. 1400 BC: Greek revolt continues. The Catholic Church once again begins papal elections. American Pact forces drive the Iriquois back on all fronts. Indian forces attack Babylon begining the 3rd Indian-Babylonian War. At the same time Arab Confederation troops attack Babylon from the south. England uses new resources to settle in Canada.

c. 1300 BC: The Greek revolt is put down and all the inhabitants of Athens put to death for their treachery. Egyptian and Russian forces attack and conquer the parts of Babylon that the Indians and Arabs do not take. Spainish cardinal wins elections for pope. Spainish army arrives in North America to assist the American survival pact forces. The American Pact forces continue to drive the Iriquois back and the first signs of peace are made from the Iriquois.

1200 BC: Iriquois War ends with the iriquois giving up large amounts of land to the Aztec Empire and the NEC. These lands come into despute between the Incan Confederation and the NEC. War begins in the Far East over the ownership of the former nation of Shanghai. China brings Mongolia and Japan into the fray against India. The Great Asian War begins with the Asian Alliance winning most of the land battles and the Indians winning naval battles and raids into southern China. Vikingland and France form the Viking Defense Pact. Tensions rise between Vikingland and Germany over control of Denmark. The American Orthodox religion forms in the newly allied Aztec and Iriquois Empires. Revolts begin in Zulu-occupied Kenya.

1100 BC: Revolts in Zulu Empire put down as the Zulu Empire becomes a Republic. Aborigine Empire arises in Austrailia. A massive privateer fleet defeats the Spainish colony fleet. As a result, the Spainish train their navy to combat pirates. The Great Asian War turns into a "phony war" as both sides dig in and wait for an offensive. Vikingland has fully recovered from its massive defeat in the Great War.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

c. 1000 BC: Zulu forces surprise attack southern Roman colony and destroy the entire garrison beginning the War of the Colonies. At the same time Spainish missionaries were killed in Kenya while trying to convert the people there. Great Eastern War ends. Vikingland declares war on England despite threatened reprisals from the Catholic Powers, starting what would become World War 2. The Zulu Empire enters the Dark Ages. The Aztec Empire completes a canal in the Panama province.

c. 900 BC: Aborigine Empire joins the Asian Alliance. War occurs between the NEC and the Incan Confederation over control of the New Orleans area. The war ends quickly with a NEC victory. Using the Spainish African colony as a base the Romans begin driving the Zulu back. New political party arises in Rome calling for Roman domination of Europe.

c. 800 BC: Rome and Spain continue counter attack and recapture the Roman southern African colony and even begin and invasion into Zululand itself. England gains complete naval superiority over the Viking coast and prepares to invade.

There, now for you players of the NES, it may seem unbelievable that at one point the Catholic Powers was against the Vikings. the only catholic nation to go with its original statement has been Germany.

Now for a alt. history question that i wouldn't mind hearing your thoughts on. What would have happened had Persia won the war against Babylon and India didn't interfere? Also for you Europeon nations: What if Russia had completely annexed Vikingland instead of making them into a Eastern Orthodox puppet nation?

 

[SKILORD]

every five days' timelines will be posted daily. feel free to comment on these, and comment what could have happened had something had happened differently (i know you'll love that SKILORD, being a alternate History fan) or what you could have done better.

thanx.

What if:
Russia had never Formed the Eastern Orthodox church
The lack of a Great European crusade would have left Russia a second rate power, having never found the strength in it's Cossacks to resist the invaders. Rome would have retained the papacy, and a majority of the power would be situated there. The protestants would never have come out as the Catholics would have been supreme. The Zulu would never have stood against the almighty Romans. The Greek Revolt could have been quelled with significantly more ease.

Russia had won the Great European Crusade
If, somehow, Russia had reversed the advances made by the Catholic powers and forced them to peace on their terms, Germany would have been forced to conversion by the sword, the Vikings would have become a European superpower overnight, claiming German lands and preparing to move east to take the English on. Without an inspiring leader the English might have fallen, but revolted years later. Rome and Spain would be forced to accept, at least, Religious pluralism. China could never have united, Orthodox Mongolia would have been supported by the Russians and Cossacks would have roamed the chinese plains.

not very eloquent but i'm a little short on time.

 

[SKILORD]

Now for a alt. history question that i wouldn't mind hearing your thoughts on. What would have happened had Persia won the war against Babylon and India didn't interfere? Also for you Europeon nations: What if Russia had completely annexed Vikingland instead of making them into a Eastern Orthodox puppet nation?

An Islamic Persia, linked to the East European powers through trade and culture, finds itself invading Roman Greece during the Great European Crusade (Don't laugh, look below) Persia becomes the mightiest nation, having defeated the Catholics with the help of the Russia and the Vikings, Persian African Colonies rise up, but are conqured by the Zulus. Islam sweeps eastward and an Islamic India, supported by Perrsia and the newly Muslim Russia, conqures the Chinese Empire, subjugating half their land and forcing them to an embarresing peace. The Pacific alliance becomes a powerful anti-muslim pact, The Worldwide Jihad erupts....

One Crown, One Church, Annexed Vikings
This would have had little effect, The Russian Navy would maybe have held up against the Spanish invaders, but the ground war of the Crusade would have been roughly the same.

Egypt in Greece, Crusade vanquished
Near the end of the great European Crusade talks began secretly between the Egyptian and Russian ambassadors, the Egyptian army, just recently upgraded in size, was poised to invade Greece to help the Russians. A new front against a significant power pulls Roman troops away from the Russians, whose Cossacks begin to rampage against the Romans. Germany was already reeling back and preparing to offer a seperate peace to the Orthodox nations. The Vikings convert back to the Eastern church, cowed by the might that church showed in the war. Eastern Orthodoxy and Islam become the dominant religions and slowly a power struggle emerges between them perhaps erupting into a worldwide Jihad or Crusade.

 

[Revolutionairy]

So hows the Egyptain's never invaded or during the greek revolts? I thought someone might have sneaked in there, but no one did thank his most catholic lord! lol

 

[SKILORD]

Ask whoever was playing Egypt at the time.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

Egypt was NPC at the time. They were kind of on autopilot right then. Just a few minuites ago i thought of a good alt history question. What if Eithiopia had never risen? In my opinion the Great War would have never had been fought as Babylon would not have needed to invade anybody to settle Arabia and India would have never had seen the moment of weakness when Babylon was fighting Eithiopia and never would have invaded, thus never starting the Great War.

 

[Angelscotboi]

Another alt history question. What if there had been no NEC or NHC?

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

The Iriquois Empire would have never arisen, the Aztecs and Incans would have been destroyed by Europeons like in RL.

 

[Warman17]

Then the new world would be almost open to the europian countrys.

Heres one:

What if the Roman Empirelist party was never formed?

The Romans would have sided with the english. The Zulu and Egyptions would have been either allys(staying same history) or enemys(alt.). In the case of enemies, Rome and spain wouldn't have to deal with the germans or english and send all their might against the africans. In the end the border would be kept or the europian power would gain land

What about France:

Even in the real history they were too afraid to invade Germany untill late into the war. They too wouldn't attack spain/Rome or face the might of German steel

What about Russia?

They wouldn't have been a problem. We agree not to attack Vikingland directly. And make a NAP.

Heres a toss up one

What would happen if The Great Asian War continued?

 

[SKILORD]

Originally posted by EQandcivfanatic
Egypt was NPC at the time. They were kind of on autopilot right then.

I remember the Egyptian leader complaining that he was so low on the Histrograph, he upgraded his army to raise himself up on it.

What if The Russians hadn't gotten the Stirrrup?

Early in the game the Russians made a huge scientific push for the stirrup, this gave their troops an advantage over other horsemen and a unique unit they will retain until Tanks replace the Cossacks.
The Cossacks, soon after they began, started a civil war though destroying the incresingly Constitutional Russian Monarchy and Placing another king there, one who claimed divine right. This made Russia primarily religious in nature, opening the door for Eastern Orthodoxy and the Great Crusade.
The Russian Theocracy was a backward nation, where the original Monarchy had been an ingenius confederation of tribes that could match any European power and was involved in competing with them, maybe we would see Russian Colonies today, alongside the Spanish and Roman ones. Russian power, in doubt in the days before the Crusade, would never have been in question in this world.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

700 BC: Russia, China, and the Incan Confederation enter the Age of Chilvary. China gives the tech to their close friends in the Asian Alliance while Russia and the Incan Confederation barters it off to their neighbors. India sends an expidition to North America. War continues in Zululand thanks to a mysterious source of supplies delaying the advance.

600 BC: Indian expidition results in trade with the American civilizations and a possible pacific Alliance. England invades Vikingland, escalating the Anglo-Viking War into World War 2. The Germans assist the English by providing supplies and support for the English in Vikingland. War of the Colonies ends at prewar borders. Tensions continue to rise between the Incans and the NEC.

500 BC: English invasion of Vikingland continues and the Russians enter the war on the Vikings' side. India also enters the war on the Vikings' side and begins an invasion of Canada. Pacific Alliance is formed between the Asian Alliance and the North American Pact.

400 BC: The Alliance of the Nile enters World War 2 on the English's side gaining naval superiority in the Atlantic at the battle of Azores. In response the Arab Confederation declares war on the Alliance of the Nile and invades Egypt. NEC and indian forces continue driving back the English in Canada. The Vikings fight the English to a standstill in the mountains of Scandinavia. Roman attempt to retake the Azores from the NHC for their Viking allies. The attempt ends in utter defeat for the Romans. Rome invades well-prepared Germany for their support of England.

Here's a interesting question: What if the iriquois Empire never attacked the NEC and Aztecs?

another one:

What if China had remained separated into 4 nations?

 

[Kennelly]

What if China had remained separated into 4 nations?

How should this be possible?Main China was still much bigger than Mongolia,Shanghai and Korea.but let's assume china had somehow been willing to remain shattered.India had already taken Shanghai.Japan would have annexed Korea.Then India or russia would have taken Mongolia.And then India would have allied with Japan and destroyed china.And then I'd taken out Japan controlling the whole eastern pacific.Probably later on war had come between india and russia over pacific access.

 

[SKILORD]

Russia would have taken Mongolia, there were plans in the works already.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

300 BC: Rest of world enters Age of Chilvary. Spain declares war on England and its allies. Germany resigns from the Catholic Alliance. England's Allies defeat a Spainish fleet and cuts off the Spainish troops in Ireland from support. Germany counter attacks Rome and takes some Roman land. Massive series of storms ends in the Pacific. China, Mongolia, and Japan enter World War 2 on the Viking side. Arab Confederation switches sides and provides information to the Egyptians allowing an attack on the Indian Empire. In Africa and South America England's allies have conquered large amounts of the Chineese, Roman, and Spainish colonies. Stalemate continues in Vikingland with neither the Vikings or English gaining any ground. English driven almost to the Atlantic in Canada by NEC and Indian forces. Aborigine Empire invades madagascar.

c. 200 BC: First signs of peace are made between the Alliance of the Nile and the Pacific Alliance. England withdraws from Vikingland and sues for peace. Iriquois supply of the NHC continues. NHC forces land in Spainish Nigeria and push south to meet the Zulu army. Chineese press an attack in the Arab Confederation.. Egyptian and Arab fleet defeats Aborigine fleet in the Persian Gulf. As a result, Aborigine navy resorts to raiding the coast. Russia invades Germany and advances very slowly thanks to well prepared German fortresses along the border.

c. 100 BC: War in Canada ends in English defeat. Bloody stalemate continues along German fronts. England makes peace with all nations excpet Vikingland, giving up Ireland and Canada. Alliance of the Nile makes peace with Europeon nations and begins negiotiating peace with the Pacific Alliance. Trans-Atlantic Alliance formed between Vikingland, France, Incan Confederation, and the NEC.

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