Trading in v1.17f...a problem

[Ashirau]

I wonder if I'm missing something, or if it's a bug, and it only started happening after I installed 1.17f; I am attempting to trade an extra luxury resource with either of two neighboring cultures, and everything seems to check out -- the resources are connected to my capital, my capital has a harbor, the neighboring civs have harbors connected to their capitals and lack the luxury (confirmed by recent trade of territoy maps). The sea lanes are also explored and clear of bandits, thanks to my galleys. This is all confirmed by my trade advisor saying that I am able to trade with these civs. Yet my luxury resource doesn't even show up as an option that I can offer them in the trading window with these cultures. In dealing with another culture far off, who doesn't have a harbor connected to their capital, etc. (as confirmed by the trade advisor), the resource shows up in my selection, but in gray print (which meant that I couldn't trade the resource, as was my understanding prior the patch).
Can anybody tell me what I might be missing; i.e., what are the other possible reasons why my tradeable resource doesn't show on my trade table when talking to civs I can supposedly trade with?

 

[Northstar5757]

I havn't had this problem with luxuries but I have had this problem with mutual protection pacts and a few other negotiations since installing the patch 1.17.

 

[Tassadar]

because this civilistion has already this luxuries, maybe a city is on top of it so you dont see it, right click on all his city to show the ground, you ll see a luxuries somewhere, the same you want to trade them.

 

[Gen]

Reason probably is that you are separated from other civs with ocean squares. These cannot be safely sailed with triremes and even with caravels. Researching magnetism which gives you galleons and frigates is the only way to trade

 

[Dralix]

Another possibility is that they have another trade agreement with another civ.

 

[Apollo]

The only reason I can think of is they already have the resource/luxury that you are trying to trade them. It may be in their territory or they may be getting it from somebody else. To check who they have trades with you can establish an embassy with them.

 

[SiCK_Boy]

Those aren't problems and aren't caused by the patch.

If the luxury doesn't show at all in the negociation windows, it's simply because the other civ already has a source of it (wether from it's own territory or via a trade with a 3rd civ).

As for the mpp and others, you need an embassy with the civs to be able to make those deals, and for some kind of deals (like mpp and trade embargoes), you also need more advanced tech.