Trading post's on jungle tiles??

[Dinglebarrys]

Hello this is my first post since civ4 a long time ago.

ive only played acouple games but i was wondering if this is what you guys do.. =/

and i play on prince and im rome if that helps, just a simple question. =)

 

[Dinglebarrys]

Ok ill add more detail to my question useally i never chop jungle tile just cause i love the later science and gold that the trading post offers wihout destroying the jungle tile, am i wrong to never chop or keep building trading posts on them?

 

[Arachnofiend]

Trading posts on jungle tiles is generally a decent idea, yeah. You should try to consider when you should or shouldn't chop though; post-universities jungle is a pretty rockin' tile but you still need some semblance of production and they're not exactly fantastic for food either. A good baseline is to chop all of your riverside jungle for farms and your hill jungle for mines.

 

[Dinglebarrys]

awesome baseline bud, im still trying to get all the tricks down ty! and this game is a huge jump from other civs but i love it! =)

 

[FrostK]

Usual situation is:
U have some city in jungle, but not all tiles are jungles. In this situation noone want to chop jungles - it takes ages and gives... nothing. So just keep them. Chop jungles on lux, of course.
I nearly never chop jungles, even near river, since after Universities this tiles become very good and after trading posts, Economics and policies 2 food - 3 science - 3 gold is really overpowered. And in early game workers have so much to do. Of courcem jungle city usually lack of production, but who cares? What u really need in such cities is library[which can be built anyway] and university[which u can buy].

Also I think, that a lot of jungles is bad place for capital [if there is not much bananas or citrus] and 2nd city. For 3rd and 4th very nice spot.

 

[JeSuisNapoleon]

I generally agree with not chopping, but...
Sometimes its a good idea to chop river tiles early in the game to build farms.
Obviously, this takes loads of time. Nobody like jungle starts mainly for this reason.
It depends quite a bit on how trade routes will be used. if you have enough food then don't chop and then you will get a great science / gold city later on.

early in the game, you wont have a university and you will need to grow. So farms on fresh water tiles are important. Bananas should probably be left unimproved as they become great with a university later, and are good food without improvement.

 

[budweiser]

Farm whats open and chop down the regular trees before you touch the jungle. Then proceed as above. Use extra workers and consider Liberty and Pyramids.

 

[Monthar]

With BNW's internal trade routes you should never chop jungles. If you need more food send a food trade route. If you need more production send a production trade route.

Whatever else you do never ever put a plantation on bananas. You only gain 1 food over leaving it unimproved with the jungle and you lose the 2 science from the university + jungle.

 

[chazzycat]

With BNW's internal trade routes you should never chop jungles. If you need more food send a food trade route.

"Never" seems a bit too strongly worded IMO...there is a tradeoff for every trade route, you don't have an infinite number. Chopping some riverside jungles after civil service is worth considering.

 

[Dgodus]

I'll chop bananas if I have multiple and build a granary (+2 food then), I'll especially chop a hills banana.

Love jungle as you've usually got calendar resources that are nice tiles to leave unimproved for awhile to get to as you need the happy. Jungle gems on hills are yummy 2 food 3 gold tile without doing a thing which turns into a production tile later? Thanks!!

 

[BlackWizard]

I'll chop bananas if I have multiple and build a granary (+2 food then), I'll especially chop a hills banana.

Love jungle as you've usually got calendar resources that are nice tiles to leave unimproved for awhile to get to as you need the happy. Jungle gems on hills are yummy 2 food 3 gold tile without doing a thing which turns into a production tile later? Thanks!!

You dont have to improve bananas to get granary bonus so planatation is still only +1 food

 

[Dgodus]

You dont have to improve bananas to get granary bonus so planatation is still only +1 food

Yea I always keep forgetting that about granaries and lighthouses.

Fertilizer gives bonus to plantations iirc.

 

[Dinglebarrys]

With BNW's internal trade routes you should never chop jungles. If you need more food send a food trade route. If you need more production send a production trade route.

Whatever else you do never ever put a plantation on bananas. You only gain 1 food over leaving it unimproved with the jungle and you lose the 2 science from the university + jungle.

haha good thinking!