Turn 97 - 630BC

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Our boat moved to sea tiles. And look what we have found there! What a pleasant surprise: a suicidal curragh of C3B! Are they lost or just desperate to find a contact? Or have they already succeeded?
 

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The iron resource has been connected. Unfortunately to only one city: Chrys. But it is only the beginning.
 

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And finally situation in our homeland. This picture is a bit misleading since I have switched a number of tiles between various cities and we are building settlers everywhere where possible. We need to discuss the city layout.
 

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On the interturn, one of our boats sunk but another stayed alive. I'm not sure what happened to C3B boat. I'm almost positive, it has survived but it was too fast, cannot tell 100%.

BTW, there is a virus in the top banner ad about Las Vegas night club. Some Trojan, rather harmless but still a parasite. Hope, Thunderfalls will get rid of it.
 
SUPER EMP!: hi
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: hi emp
SUPER EMP!: we saw a little ship of yours up north
SUPER EMP!: have you had contact?
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: nope, not contact at all so far
SUPER EMP!: are their any routs to the other world?
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: not that we know of
SUPER EMP!: ok
 
If C3B has a curragh up there, won't they have somewhat of an idea of what their continent looks like? We should try to push our border demands on them.
 
Look at where it is exactly! :eek: What could've driven them to be southwest of the coastline we found?

And yes, they're just pretending not to know our continent. They played a very good "non-knowing" role. :mad:
 
Matrix said:
Look at where it is exactly! :eek: What could've driven them to be southwest of the coastline we found?

And yes, they're just pretending not to know our continent. They played a very good "non-knowing" role. :mad:

The only thing that could have driven them south west would be that the coast line of what we see is not a continent and perhaps is just another island. mabey they are doing another suicide run sw in hopes of reaching the continent
 
I to are getting increasingly annoyed with C3B ,they indeed lied about not knowing their coastline knowing all to well the size of their hinterland ,they are also seaking for contacts and it seems rather to use those contacts against us than to use them inside an alliance.
Now they are trying to choke us in expansion by settling in the no-settling zone ,and i wouldn't be surprized if they are building up their millitary ,afterall if youre going to settle in that no settling zone wich is clearly an act of agressiontowards us than they must know that they must back it with force.

We are in a very dangerous position now ,If C3B gets those contacts it could prove disasterous for us ,and they are building wonders most notably they could build the lighthouse.

We need a millitary buildup as detterant ,and a cash buildup to build those harbors and upgrade those troops when the iron flows in ,time is running short and the situation is becomming dangerous ,damn those C3B fools who are endangering our alliance while thats geostrategicly unwise. :(
 
Let's bypass the island that is visible. It looks like C3B went there and is now suiciding SW. Let's move the southern curragh 2 x West; to block the C3B in a straigh SW-SW path. If we can manage to get our curraghs in front of the C3B curragh we can outmaneuver them and force them to stay in sea longer, thus increasing their chances to sink.

:lol: "The boat race" now takes a whole new meaning.

Edit: just saw only 1 boat survived ...
 
Gah. I would say I'm a little annoyed with C3B. :mad: [pissed] :mad:

And I think we should hope that their galley sinks and we should build new ships. The race for the other continent has begun - I wonder if they are trying to find us as hard as we are trying to find them? :hmm:

I fully hope Matrix gets to the next chat. ;) That will be fun to read if he does.
 
TheDuckOfFlanders said:
I to are getting increasingly annoyed with C3B ,they indeed lied about not knowing their coastline knowing all to well the size of their hinterland ,they are also seaking for contacts and it seems rather to use those contacts against us than to use them inside an alliance.
Now they are trying to choke us in expansion by settling in the no-settling zone ,and i wouldn't be surprized if they are building up their millitary ,afterall if youre going to settle in that no settling zone wich is clearly an act of agressiontowards us than they must know that they must back it with force.

They are settleing in the FORMER no-settle zone. If you guys want to remake it just ask. The last time we asked if they knew their coast line was many turns ago, maybe they just go
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They are further along than we thought. We are the weakest team in the game, C3B has an offensive advantage over us, and they are probably closer to meeting the other nations. We aren't sure that is there only boat out there, they might have more going in other directions.

If C3B meets the other nations first, I doubt C3B will have to work too hard to convince the others that we should be the ones eliminated to ensure a speedy transition for everyone else to the next round.

At least we are mostly in agreement that C3B is not going to be our buddies in the next round.

Akots says there is no way to knock C3B out by ourselves, does everyone agree with that assessment? Even if we do find the other nations first, won't we have to convince them both to be with us against C3B, or do we still think we can be in the 3-way alliance with C3B? If we are the odd man out, is there anything we can do except play defensively?
 
deshelbr said:
If C3B meets the other nations first, I doubt C3B will have to work too hard to convince the others that we should be the ones eliminated to ensure a speedy transition for everyone else to the next round.

Well that is a complex factor. Now, rember the party system in C3B. How would the moderate party (who wil most likely stay in power) look if they started a war with the nation they wanted to make freinds with. THe nation that most of their platform is based on. But then they might, but I think it is on the unlikly side.


deshelbr said:
At least we are mostly in agreement that C3B is not going to be our buddies in the next round.

I would like to think so, but they may not.

deshelbr said:
Akots says there is no way to knock C3B out by ourselves, does everyone agree with that assessment? Even if we do find the other nations first, won't we have to convince them both to be with us against C3B, or do we still think we can be in the 3-way alliance with C3B? If we are the odd man out, is there anything we can do except play defensively?

I liek yuor last two sentences, that is a big factor in everything. They knwo that C3B is persia and that they have immortals, and a lot since they have not been at war before. If we want another nation to ally with us, we need to prove to them that we can win a war, insted of a quick war with them allying with C3B. This may include going to war, but we need to time it good. Now, I do have some plans, I will post them later today.
 
War plans, assuming there are no other nation involved. I hope we don't use these, but if we have to we must win.

Stage I: (Green Arrow) Brasilian imortals come down the continant thinking they can overpower the city at the ismus with they powerful units.

Stage: II: When Brazil is outside the gates, we move in our JV from the south(Red Arrow), and move our secret regiment of AC from the East (other Red arrow) to block an escape route.

Stage III: With most of the Brasilian troops traped in a battle down south, we move our gallies up north, and go a two-sided attack on Brazil. Giveing C3B the land battle they want will mean us losing, so our poer is in a good navy. The Eastern forces need to be stonger though, since their capital will be better defended. The trick is that we move our ships after the immortals are in the south, becuase C3B will most likely have ships on watch.

Stage IV: We raise the Fanatican Flag in Brasilia, and with their capital gone, we will be able to purswade another nation that we will win, and we will advance to the finals.
 

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I'm afraid we won't have enough troops to do your plan, Emp. What will we build up? Javs? Wait for iron? Perhaps we have made a mistake in trusting C3B.
 
RegentMan said:
I'm afraid we won't have enough troops to do your plan, Emp. What will we build up? Javs? Wait for iron? Perhaps we have made a mistake in trusting C3B.

THis plan will occure around 25-50 turns from now, I am not proposing it now. We would need to put all of our power into the military, we can win a war alone, but if antoehr party joins C3B, we are dead. All we need to do it prove to the world that we can beat C3B, and we may get an ally or two.
 
The concept of using galleys is clever, but extremely costly. 2 galleys could instead be 2 swordsmen. 8 units (a sizeable force at this time), costs 4 more units to transport. I guess maybe I should sign up for the save and start making plans.
 
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